The new Paleo/Primal thread - please reintroduce yourself, newcomers welcome!

[misscph1973]

Wow, we got to 1000 messages!

Welcome back from the previous thread and welcome to all new!

I have been Paleo since September last year, I started as an ex-vegetarian/vegan, I wanted to give up gluten and I had been doing 5:2/IF, which lead me to Paleo/primal. I am 40, I have 2 kids age 8 and 6. I have no major health issues, but I would like it to stay that way. I have bad skin, which has improved since starting Paleo and my dandruff has disappeared. I have gained some weight since starting Paleo, but I was not overweight before, although I would like to get back on my pre Paleo weight - I just love Paleo mayonnaise too much ;) I still practice IF and I lift weights 2-3 times per week. My family is also Paleo.

I have just come back from a camping weekend where I was not strict Paleo as I was camping with other families and I just didn't want to spend my entire weekend telling my kids "no, you cant have it". I do think that Paleo camping is entirely possible, think tinned fish, nuts, sausages, eggs etc.

You have my sympathy giraffes with fussy DCs. So what is on the menu with the lambs liver?

We had a wedding this weekend which meant I slipped up with my eating and my stomach is not happy. Made me realise just how much better I feel when I don't munch rubbish... hastily puts away midget gems

Just caught up on this thread (under another NC!)
I'm juicing a fair bit at the moment. After watching the programme it does appeal - I have chronic cholinergic urticaria. Appeared from nowhere when I was 11. I've tried everything under the sun, an urticaria specialist ramped up my antihistamines to 285mg a day with no effect. My only option is cyclosporin which is a hefty drug. Am not convinced its wheat/gluten as paleo has made no noticeable difference
With juices it means I eat (drink) a lot more veg especially spinach which I don't like eating!
My sciatica is sorted and I have been approved to go back to spin/yoga/Pilates but no weights yet. Basically weak core meant piriformis and sacroiliac were compensating and facet joints were stuck. Hammering the core exercises and stopping all exercise for 6 weeks has made a huge improvement
Eased myself back in with my first pole fitness class. OMG. New found respect for people who do it, my bruises are insane, and the strength you need is ridiculous!

Good to hear your back is on a mend, goodas. :)

Silly question: have you tried removing capsaicin containing nightshades from your diet?
There are a couple of research that indicate that capsaicin inhibits antihistamines (at least topically). Although Capsaicin can be used topically to treat a number of conditions including itching and some skin problems, it is also becoming apparent that some people have mutations in the capsaicin receptors.

Pole fitness sounds fun, it reminds me of the I used to love when I was young. A lot harder than it looks and a lot more bruises than you'd imagine!

I haven't (must google what contains them!)
I got weighed today - good and bad news, I've lost muscle from not training and so it's not a brilliant loss. But 13lbs down

That's great, goodas!

Giraffes, I've just tried the chicken nuggets and they are very dry and quite faffy to make. Most of my days are hectic, so I Need quick and simple recipes...Below is how I've solved the problem :)

Chicken nuggets

Ingredients

Enough Almond flour to cover the bottom of a small frying pan (30-50g?)
1/4-1/2 lemon zest
1 egg beaten
2 chciken breasts cut into small strips (about a little finger's width)
Herbs optional
Fat to cook

Method

1. I mixed the almond flour with the zest of 1/4-1/2 lemon (to give a fresh taste), salt and pepper and cooked the mix in a dry pan a medium heat until the desired colour was achieved. Set aside.
2. I marinated the chicken in the egg for a few minutes before cooking it at medium heat in a frying pan. I added a bit of thyme and lemon zest whilst the chicken was cooking.
3. Once the chicken was cooked to a lovely golden yellow, I rolled each piece in the almond flour mix, shook off excess flour and served (lovely with a slice of lemon). It would be easy to pick up with little finger too!

With the left over egg and flour I cooked some thin slices of courgettes (using same technique).
I would think it would work with fish and minute steaks.

Capsicum/nightshades might be worth eliminating and adding back in to the diet.

I react really badly to dried, powdered powdered peppers (paprika, chilli powder and so on), but I'm fine with fresh chilli and sweet peppers in moderation (itch, rash, joint pains).

I'm assuming that its because of the surface area- the powder is fine and allows all the irritant compounds out into the digestive system, whereas fresh chopped stuff is quite big even after chewing. Does that make sense ?

Similarly, too many raw tomatoes is quite irritant to me, but cooked ones are absolutely fine.

Mutations in my capsicum receptors - lol, I suppose I must have!!!

Goodasitgets, was thinking about your histamine response - presumably you have an elevated response hence the antihistamines?

I have several Migraine triggers which are (I'm sure) related to the tyramine content of those foods (blue and aged cheeses, fermented foods like sauerkraut, marmite), and interestingly, I remember when reading about tyramine (a natural product of decay), that these foods also tend to have a very high histamine content too (several articles I read had the title low histamine and tyramine diets, or similar titles)... And these seem to badly affect some people. I am wondering therefore if anyone has suggested histamine in food as a cause/trigger of your urticaria before?

I know the tyramine/migraine link was just something I stumbled on myself, after 20 years of migraines! I had no idea about it until about a year ago!

Yeah basically it's not known as to what my triggers are - I know change of temp and raised heart rate are triggers for me
Interestingly (or just to pee me off!) I've developed vitiligo on my hand, never had it before, no family history

This is more about it. I do find bringing it up every day helps deplete the severity of it, so the more exercise I do the better!
dermatology.about.com/cs/hives/a/cholurt.htm

Interesting Raw. Also interesting about your joint pain reaction. Capsaicin receptor (TRPV1) in implicated in the heat and pain response and it has been researched in relation to arthritis. this article might interst you.

Favadi, that was indeed interesting, a pretty heavy read after my weekend of no sleep (sadly not related to wild living, but to toddler and too much work!).

That is probably enough evidence for me to justify eating fresh chillies and and sweet peppers in modest quantities, I love the taste but had wondered if the pain reaction to eating too much meant damage to the affected joints (normally on a clean, grain free diet I don't have an joint pain now, where as before, I had it all the time in many joints). But that paper would suggest that a potentially positive benefit, very interesting indeed!

Goodasitgets interesting also, I think I used to get this (or similar) in response to sweat? In hot weather ie back of the neck, underarms, but lucky for me, not very often and haven't had it for a year or two. I got told it was heat rash/prickly heat?

It sounds a bit scary to provoke it with hot showers!!! You're brave , that would make me itch massively!

I'm currently reading a fascinating older review on TRPs which is not as heavy on the eyes but it's 34 pages long plus 32 pages of references . I first came across caspaicin receptors because of my reactions to some medications, products and plants: I either itch and develop eczema or I itch and develop urticaria; add to that the desire to scratch my eyes out and the inside of my nose if suffering hayfever! For years I couldn't eat peppers without getting a migraine but since going paleo not only I can eat peppers but I get no migraines, nor hayfever. :)

Yep starts on chest and crook of arms mainly. When v bad it's huge raised hives even on feet and palms of hands and I plunge in an ice bath. I tend to bring it up via exercise as hot shower more unpleasant!
Currently take 4 x cetirizine a day

And yes I guess it's like an turbo charged version of prickly heat!!

That's a massive dose! I felt awful with just one tablet and preferred levocetirizine to the rest. A friend finds that by rotating the antihistamines gets a better control (different condition).

Ha at one point I was on the equivalent of 28 x 10mg tablets
Which did precisely nothing
I also have dermographism so I can write swear words on my skin with my nail which makes a good party trick

Wow! That's some party trick!!
I can see your wanting to juice. Are you just juicing like Joe or an add-on like Dr Wahls?

I'm doing it as an add on at the minute but am tempted to do a 3-5 day fast when I have a week off work just to see really

For entertainment

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, so how long does it take for the "writing" to apear?

Goes red all up my arm straight way then settles into writing in about 5 seconds

Amazing!!!

Good luck with your fast, goodas! Looking forward to hear about the results. :)
Would you be doing the winter version for the fats?