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Low-carb bootcamp

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Summer 25 HFLC Boot Camp: Week 1. And we’re off!

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prettybird · 04/08/2025 08:26

4 August is here, so so is Week 1 of a 6 week Boot Camp. I’m blatantly running this for selfish reasons as I’m off to South Africa mid September and want to keep myself accountable Wink

Are you ready? The lovely Flowers @FinallyHere posting thhas already posted the link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness so that those of you who are early risers may already have posted their weights. Here is the link again https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hlJKScntZ78g7eAkaR7hF_uiL0t3WGumIFvHvDAvfJI/edit?usp=sharing

I'll start a new thread every week.

It will take me a few posts as I blatantly copy across from BIWI‘s excellent introductory posts and I’m doing this on the app which makes it more award.

First off the major caveat: I am not a doctor, nor a dietican. This Way of Eating works for me and has done for many others. I’ve followed BIWI on these Boot Camps for many years and there is a lot of support but if you have any medical issues or concerns, you need to make your own choices. You need to be particularly careful if you are pregnant or breastfeeding (in which case follow Boot Camp Light), diabetic or if you are taking any medication, as you may need to liaise with your doctor regarding dosage. I'll post a follow up post with more details.

@FinallyHere is Spreadsheet Monitor, so any problems, please tag her and she will work her magic on it.

And so to the rules. These are the rules for the first two weeks. After that, we do relax things a little:

1. Eat three proper meals a day
You must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and especially enough fat, you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).

After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.

A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

Experienced Boot Campers may follow intermittent fasting (IF) (16:8 or similar) and therefore not have breakfast or another meal but if you’re new to this Way of Eating, wait until you’ve got used to it before starting on IF.

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not at every meal, every day.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little).

Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light/’Lite’ foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food

This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list, which you'll find on the spreadsheet.

Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are under 5g carb per 100g, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low.

You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

The vegetable carb counter is helpfully colour-coded into green (eat freely), amber (go easy) and red (best avoided as much as possible), which will help you to make your choices.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)

Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!)

You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. You should choose one that’s 10% fat – most of the supermarkets (I like the Lidl Authentic Greek Yoghurt but not their Greek Style Confused) have a Greek yoghurt in their premium ranges with this amount of fat.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day

The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink.

This originally came from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/ but although the site is now defunct, there are other sources which advise similar quantities of water.

It does of course go without saying not to drink the entire amount in one go: you should spread it out over the day.

Water is essential to weight loss for those who follow a low carb way of eating. The minimum consumed in a day should be:

Your Weight - Litres
140lbs - 2.5
160lbs - 3.0
180lbs - 3.0
200lbs - 3.5
220lbs - 3.5
240lbs - 4.0
260lbs - 4.5
280lbs - 4.5
300lbs - 5.0
320lbs - 5.5
340lbs - 5.5
360lbs - 6.0
380lbs - 6.5
400lbs - 6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects, e.g. it aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.
However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb way of eating, we should eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it.

Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

The water is really important - any time I’ve noticed myself stalling, I’ve noticed that my water consumption had dipped. I like to think of it as helping to pee the fat away

7. No alcohol

Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead.

If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit

Really. Seriously. Shock Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, in moderation, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds

Although they are a good source of nutrition and contain lots of fat – which is great for us – they also contain carbohydrate and, because they’re so moreish, you can quickly end up eating a lot of carbs.

When we move to Bootcamp Light, after the first two weeks, you can re-introduce these, but be careful and go easy. On the spreadsheet, you'll find a nut carb counter, which illustrates just how much they vary in terms of their carb counts.

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners

Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat.
Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

That's us off and running. I'll follow up with a few Housekeeping posts but I think that's plenty to get started with. Smile

Here’s to a successful Boot Camp Flowers

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CleanQueen123 · 04/08/2025 19:03

Evening all. I'll be weighing tomorrow because I wasn't at home last night so no access to scales.

Tuna salad and two boiled eggs for lunch.
Burger (no bun), topped with cheese and gherkins, with cucumber and carrot sticks for dinner.

I struggle with breakfast but I'm going to try a creamy coffee. I find dairy really stalls my weight loss so try to limit it to once a day. If I'm not careful I find myself living on creamy coffees and pepperamis.

Avoidingthetwitch · 04/08/2025 21:08

Hi all, I’ve done bootcamp
very successfully in the past and having just come back from holiday was really pleased to
see
one starting today.

I’ve joined Diet doctor to help me with planning- I’m on the free trial but might stick with it as it’s been great so far. As others have said, planning is key and the app does great meal plans.
I’ve had yoghurt and berries for breakfast, a Greek salad with bacon and avocado for lunch and a spicy chicken stir fry for dinner, and it’s gone really well- even though my work colleagues had ordered a pizza in. My husband is doing keto for the first time and enjoying it though I’m having to explain about no bananas etc which I’m not sure he is on board with yet.

I had a kidney removed recently and can’t have lots of protein, so the current high protein trend doesn’t work for me, but Dr is very happy for me to do this as long as my bloods and kidney function continue to be ok.

venusandmars · 04/08/2025 21:28

@Avoidingthetwitch I'm hating the 'high protein / low fat' trend. I tried to buy yogurt recently, just ordinary, full fat, not messed around with yogurt. Goodness you'd think I was looking for something made with the tears of a golden rabbit!!

Everything was high protein and/or 0% fat. If I wanted to eat pea protein I would eat some actual peas! I'd not dehydrate it and mess around with it and add it to my fat-free additive-laden yogurt.

OK, rant is over, and normal venus calm returns...

CleanQueen123 · 04/08/2025 21:38

venusandmars · 04/08/2025 21:28

@Avoidingthetwitch I'm hating the 'high protein / low fat' trend. I tried to buy yogurt recently, just ordinary, full fat, not messed around with yogurt. Goodness you'd think I was looking for something made with the tears of a golden rabbit!!

Everything was high protein and/or 0% fat. If I wanted to eat pea protein I would eat some actual peas! I'd not dehydrate it and mess around with it and add it to my fat-free additive-laden yogurt.

OK, rant is over, and normal venus calm returns...

I know what you mean. Fridge upon fridge of high protein/zero fat/flavoured/diet yoghurt and hardly any options for full fat unflavoured. Limited choice and usually double the price.

prettybird · 04/08/2025 22:18

Welcome @AvoidingthetwitchFlowers

As you’ve done Boot Camp before, I’ll not get the Big Stick out yet for the berries with your yoghurt Wink But I would ask that you (and any other more experienced Boot Campers Wink) don’t mention those foods that aren’t compatible with the first two weeks of Boot Camp. It confuses the newbies Grin

I completely get where you (and @venusandmars’ little rant) are coming from about the High Protein trend. So many of those food items are also full of artificial sweeteners and/or additives Hmm

The best way of thinking of this WoE is that protein stays in the middle - it’s the fat and the carbs that flip around in the (sort of) food pyramid.

Plus the importance of all the water Halo

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HazelNotHungryLC · 05/08/2025 03:20

I'm so grateful for this bootcamp! I got back on track with low carb again a couple of weeks ago and the cravings have already died down to almost nothing 🥳 I had dropped 2.4lbs as of Saturday morning, but of course gained 1.4lbs as of Monday morning 🤦‍♀️. I know it's water weight that will go away once back on track and no alcohol

averywittyusername · 05/08/2025 06:30

Hi, hoping I can join a day late? I've successfully done thie WOE before and due to getting too casual with it I'm a stone over where I should be. I do need a big stick, at least least for a week or two, to remind me that this works beautifully when I follow the rules.

Starting the day with scrambled eggs and will take a chunk of cheese for lunch. I need inspiration so it's great to see your menus!

CleanQueen123 · 05/08/2025 07:34

Right, I've weighed in. 11st 11lbs, so 11lbs to go to reach my goal weight. If I can get down to 11st 7lbs before I go on holiday in 3 weeks I'll be happy with that as a start.

Pint of electrolytes, coffee with cream, and two boiled eggs for breakfast.
I've got cucumber, artichokes, and tuna salad for lunch.
Roast chicken thighs and probably celeriac chips for dinner, possibly with coleslaw if I can track down a cabbage after work.

prettybird · 05/08/2025 07:57

@HazelNotHungryLC- it will indeed drop off with all the water and no alcohol Wink

@averywittyusernameOf course you can join Flowers Just jump on in, read (and apply Wink) The Rules and drink the water Grin There will be others that join as the Boot Camp progresses - all are welcome Smile

@CleanQueen123- your objectives are similar to mine, although I’m now Blush a few pounds above you. But both you and I will get there Halo

Tonight we’re having home made pork burgers (pork mince, garlic, finely chopped shallot, egg, olive oil and a wee bit of finely chopped sage - and a very generous squooshes of Worcestershire sauce, formed and left to firm up in the fridge) with home made tzatziki and the first of the runner beans from the garden. Dh will also have creamy mushrooms yeurgh left over from his steak on Sunday.

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venusandmars · 05/08/2025 08:32

I have a friend coming for dinner tonight. We're having starter and main so I'll miss breakfast (long term bootcamper and often intermittent faster) and have an early lunch about 11.30am
L - coffee with cream; remainder of tuna mayonnaise with salad
D - tomato, avocado, mozzerella and basil with home-made dressing; then sort of kedgeree (I call it cabbegeree) made with 'riced' cabbage onion and curried base, add smoked fish and soft boiled egg, served with cauliflower rice. There will also be cheese and celery available.

CrystalTits · 05/08/2025 17:38

Out for dinner with friends tonight - will stick to a chicken supreme with extra veg instead of the potatoes. There's also a pork belly (without mash) but I just can't bring myself to pay almost £30 for it. I've drunk loads of water today too so hoping that will offset any other temptation!

Shells · 05/08/2025 18:00

Hi all, today's lesson is I really need to go to the supermarket on my own and really think about what I'm buying. Having a chorizo and butter bean stew- no beans for me. But realise the chorizo not ideal at this point. And I didn't have enough fat today so feeling a bit hungry. Will have some cheese. More planning!

venusandmars · 05/08/2025 23:05

And I haven't had enough water today. Will do better tomorrow. I know it makes the difference.

averywittyusername · 06/08/2025 08:57

Day 2 and I'm feeling full of energy. And a 2lb loss (water etc I'm sure but it boosts my mood!). What does everyone do regarding weighing, daily or once per week? I am addicted to my scales and don't think it helps. I'm toying with the idea of hiding them and weighing at the gym instead, they have body composition scales and i could see myself doing that once per week as the scales are in a public area, so i wouldn't be taking off all my clothes and standing on them differently to try & get a better result like I do at home.

I think I've just talked myself into that. Will remove the batteries and lock up the scales for now. I need to focus on the food and changing habits, not tiny changes on the scales.

prettybird · 06/08/2025 09:24

We all have different approaches to weighing - which vary according our different personalities.

Personally, I weigh daily. I’m fully aware that weight can fluctuate up to a couple of pounds but I tend to view upward movements as a reminder that either (or both Wink) I snacked a bit much the day before even if they were HFLC snacks Blush and/or I didn’t drink enough water. If I stop daily weighing, it’s usually a warning that I’m falling off the wagon. Shock

As long as the overall trajectory is downwards, it doesn’t put me off.

There are apps which smooth daily weighing so you can see the average, but I’ve never felt the need.

If, however, seeing the daily fluctuations will demotivate you, then I agree, take the batteries out Grin

Other alternatives are not weighing at all and using an item of clothing that you want to get into/be more comfortable. You can also take measurements - especially of your waist, but also bum, thighs, under and over boobs and upper arms. They’re what we call “NSVs” - Non Scales Victories Smile

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DrBlackbird · 06/08/2025 12:00

I’m weighing a couple of times a week. I need that objective number to keep me motivated. Otherwise a bit "I’m sure that’ll be okay to eat" creeps in and the scales creep up. I’ve sort of plateaued from last years Bootcamp but would love to drop a similar amount again.

venusandmars · 06/08/2025 13:47

@prettybird are pine nuts allowed, or do we have to wait until week 3? We have too many courgettes and I have a courgetti recipe that has lemon zest, lemon juice, basil, parmesan cheese and toaasted pine nuts. They've got 4g carb per 100g and the recipe uses about 10g per person.

If not I'll have to go hunting for other courgette recipes.

And what about tahini?

Going to a festival in a seaside town this afternoon / evening and will have to navigate my way round eating from food trucks / pop-ups.

prettybird · 06/08/2025 14:18

Technically pine nuts aren’t allowed during the first two weeks but as you’re an experienced Boot Camper - and you have a glut of courgettes - I think you’ll be ok. Just don’t make a habit of it Grin

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venusandmars · 06/08/2025 14:29

Thanks - it is only a small amount. The risk for me with normal nuts is that it is very easy to keep on nibbling and having way too much.

Enchanted82 · 06/08/2025 15:54

any suggestions on best practice to keeping the weight off? Is it keeping within a certain carb limit per day?
i guess it’s different for every person

HazelNotHungryLC · 06/08/2025 16:47

I weigh myself daily, just like @prettybird, if I stop, I've fallen off the wagon big time (or I'm on holiday) and will usually gain weight.

We don't weigh anything or track our carbs on bootcamp @Enchanted82, but that's also why I weigh myself daily. I can see what will make the scales go up and down (and can take 2-3 days to take effect going back down). Everybody is different, some can tolerate more carbs than others.

prettybird · 06/08/2025 16:54

Once you’ve reached your target weight, you can experiment with how many/which/how often carbs you can tolerate without putting weight back in.

I’d advise giving yourself a tolerance variation for your weight - as weight does fluctuate.

We’re all different both physiologically and psychologically - although for all of us, eating too much - and mostly carbs - is what got us here Blush

Some of us are “abstainers” and have to stay off carbs forever as we’d fall face first into a plate of them if we allowed ourselves to even just start Blush Others are “moderators”, and can allow ourselves to have carbs (whether nice French patisserie or a special dessert) mindfully once in a while. Personally, I’m a moderator in the short term but longer term - like over the Christmas period Blush - I end up falling off the wagon and getting the “fuck-its” Blush

You can usually start to eat more of the “red coded” veg though - and add fruit, especially berries- in more often.

I’m no longer tempted by oven chips though and rarely eat rice.

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prettybird · 06/08/2025 16:55

Oh - and the water is ALWAYS important Grin

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prettybird · 06/08/2025 21:39

This was my supper last night: home made pork burgers, tzatziki made with home grown garlic and home grown runner and french beans with butter Smile Oh - and a home grown tomato Wink

Tonight, we had (low carb) Lidl Black Pepper sausages with buttery white cabbage and more tzatziki.

Summer 25 HFLC Boot Camp: Week 1. And we’re off!
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venusandmars · 06/08/2025 23:27

@Enchanted82 if I'm trying to maintain my weight, rather than lose anything, I follow pretty much all the bootcamp lite rules. Then usually once a week I have a meal with more carbs - something with lentils or beans, or some hummus, because I love those and I think that they are good for my body. However, on those days I try not to also have high fat. So I might have salmon on puy lentils but I'd have black coffee rather than coffee with cream and I'd not have cheese that day. I also eat a wider variety of more carby veg - occasional peas, or beetroot or carrots. But not every day, certainly not every meal, maybe once or twice a week...

I have really lost my sweet tooth, so rarely tempted by cake, one mouthful is usually enough and I generally avoid anything with flour. My psychology is that I try to think of all the possible high carb treats and I often come down in favour of pulses or a buttery corn on the cob. Those kind of 'treats' I have less than once a month.

I know that the dangerous pattern for me is high carbs and high fat: wine AND cheese AND biscuits AND butter, or new potatoes with loads of butter, or snacking on crisps and hummus and pesto.

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