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Birdgirl21 · 16/11/2023 09:15

Hi - I could really use some advice from someone who has been through similar before. I moved to NI with my 2 year old 6 months ago with my ex's consent and agreement. He lives in England. He is now not happy with the arrangement. Is there an amicable way to settle this in my daughter's best interests?

Backstory
Ex has recently diagnosed ADHD, has always struggled to control his emotions/temper, has been unreliable, not a good partner. Bought a house to show I was really committed to making it work with him in England when our daughter was born.
To set the scene - our daughter was born by c section with complications, he left at 2am, fine, was allowed back at 8am but slept in, with his phone out of battery, rolled in at lunch time and when I queried it saying I was frightened (no family in England and no idea where he was and in pain with a frigging new born baby) he got angry at me and said WELL YOU HAD A BED BIRDGIRL21. All the signs were there.)
Honestly he is not a bad person, he just was no support, no help with the baby, and I really hope now he has been diagnosed he can start to learn and put things into place.
ANYWAY, post natal depression, no help, no support, lonely, tired, he wont do any night feeds because he has to work - from home - mostly tootling about on his guitar, at the weekends he lays in. Im starting to resent everything and im flying home every 6 weeks in bits. He gets made redundant, I have to go back to work earlier than I wanted to, Im paying the mortgage, hes drinking all the time and getting angry at me blah blah, we still have our girl in nursery 2 days a week so he can apply for jobs - but he says nothing suits him. Im getting in debt.
My dad dies, he panics the day after the funeral and lashes out at me which results in a 5 hour craze with me in the corner cowering, cant snap him out of it, we obviously break up, im done, i gave it a go.
He gets a new job which starts in 10 days - we have no childcare, we have no money - do i give up my job so he can start his?? thats not happening. I suggest kid and I move to NI, its cheaper to live, lots of family to help with childcare, he agrees, we move that weekend, its done, i start to heal and build a new life, its tough, but I finally feel like I can breathe. Kid is thriving in countryside with lots of family and cousins.

6 months later, Im getting drunk calls cause hes lonely and wants to chat, im getting calls where he is crying down the phone at me, very unpredictable, but always ends up with him screaming down the phone, calling me names, threatening solicitors, threatening to pull out of the house sale (nearly at completion) I'm really OK with that because I know I've done everything in DD's best interests, I have kept my cool, I have been accommodating as possible, even letting him stay in my new safe place house until he once again proved he couldnt control his temper. I have advised he now needs to get a hotel as I wont be spoken to like that in my house.

He pays towards her childcare when I beg him, but not enough to even cover half the fees.

He says I have to bring her over to England every 8 weeks, (he doesnt know where he will be living and he has no family to rely on for childcare) and every other month he will boot me out of my house and stay there because he has rights.

Im not doing any of that, she is 2.5 and I have no idea where he will be so I cant agree to anything. I have brought her over a few times at my own expense, and stayed in hotels, he is having her over the christmas period, I facetime him every day - im trying really hard but this aggro is unsustainable. I moved 300 miles to get away from his behaviour but I feel like its just in my pocket all the time.

Just to note - my mum had exactly the same thing when i was born - moved over to NI when I was 2 to be closer to family because my dad didnt support her and she had no network. So this feels quite complicated for me, I didnt have a great relationship with my dad, I didnt see him often and we just never clicked. I resented leaving my friends and family to stay in strange surroundings with strange people and my dad would be working all the time anyway. and he died recently. So theres a lot going on and I might not be thinking clearly.

Any advice on how to deal with this? How often is often enough? Should I let him stay in my house? I feel really panicky at the thought of it, this is my safe place, and the England house did not feel safe. Should I go straight to sols? He is threatening but wont get his arse in gear to arrange it, or pay for it.

I'm a bit lost.

Thanks for reading. Feels better even to write it all down.

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HiyaWatha · 16/11/2023 09:35

He is a bad person.

Or if you want to be pedantic, he behaves like a very, very bad person.

I’d stop bothering with him except for CMS maintenance.If he can be bothered to visit you , great.

If not, then your daughter won’t have a good relationship with him, but that’s because he’s an awful person. That’s not on you.

Birdgirl21 · 16/11/2023 09:52

@HiyaWatha - thank you - I actually hadn't considered this as an option, and it has kinda floored me. I can do that. And reading it back, there aren't many redeeming qualities, and it has been really tough. So maybe I should stand my ground. Thank you for this. I will think a bit more about what you have said.

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GwenGhost · 16/11/2023 09:58

He’s abusive. Even if he’s never hit you, raging at you for hours while you’re cowering in the corner is domestic violence. Well done for getting out of the relationship and moving to where you have support and back up and where you feel safe. Don’t have him in your house. That’s the right decision. You need that boundary to keep your home calm and safe and also to show him his behavior towards you has been unacceptable and you are not going to allow him to treat you like that. Not allowing him in your home will likely result in him treating you better, however much he complains about it. It is hard sorting out contact with a father like this but you do have to do it. If you can’t agree, a court will order it for you. You could ask to try mediation. It’s not recommended when there’s coercion and abuse but it sounds like you have been holding your own telling him what you need and what you’re willing and not willing to do to facilitate his relationship with your shared child. You’re absolutely right that you can’t possibly commit to visits until you know where he’s based and what his availability will be. You clearly are facilitating your daughter’s relationship with her dad by organizing Xmas etc. A mediator might help you to be able to put reasonable suggestions on the table for now that will also work in the future. It could be that the plan will be a long weekend (maybe 5 days ish?) every half term plus some time in the summer holidays.
How is he with your daughter? Do you trust him not to drink etc and to deal with toddler tantrums safely? Does he have back up at all if he’s struggling with her? He clearly has anger issues, unfortunately it doesn’t sound like his behavior is bad enough for a court to insist on supervised contact, but it might be reassuring to you to know that your daughter would have regular contact with calmer members of her paternal family - maybe grandma? Aunties or uncles? A discussion with either a family law solicitor or someone like a social worker would be helpful to you - it would be good to know the tipping points behavior wise where you should be stopping contact if he starts to show some of these behaviors again when he’s with your daughter.

MrsSkylerWhite · 16/11/2023 10:01

I wouldn’t let him anywhere near my daughter unless he was supervised. Have you sought legal advice?

GwenGhost · 16/11/2023 10:01

I’m absolutely not a lawyer by the way. Or a social worker. I think talking to someone with professional knowledge would be a good thing if you can manage it. His behavior is appalling but whether or not it meets any legal thresholds for withholding contact is something else.

Birdgirl21 · 16/11/2023 10:40

Thank you all so much, I am more than happy to attend mediation, I just want him to sort it. Before we moved I got legal advice which was basically once we were in NI it was home safe. I have looked into further legal advice but noone wants to touch the case without big buck barristers due to the complexities of two different legal systems etc, and with the move, being a single parent, childcare fees learning to drive, money is really tight at the moment.

I am not overly worried about him having time with her, I don't think he pays enough attention, I used to find him napping when he was supposed to be looking after her, and he gets distracted really easily, but I don't think its enough to cut contact with him. I want DD to have a better relationship with him than I had with my dad, but not at the expense of my welfare.
His nearest family lives 150 miles away and they arent able for it really. I can't quite pin down what he plans to do, and when I ask him to pin it down he just gets angry. I would be more than willing to accommodate half term/christmas, holidays etc but that isnt enough for him.
I've been trying so hard to do the right thing, and i've always tried to do whatever I think he will react best to and im really tired now. If anyone treated DD like he is treating me, I would tell her to run a mile.
Thank you all so much for your advice, lots to think about and at the very least I am reassured that I'm not being the bully/punishing DD/evil person he says I am!

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GwenGhost · 16/11/2023 11:19

It doesn’t matter if it isn’t enough for him. You live in NI now, so he has to be realistic. You’re very willing to accommodate realistic contact. But you can promise to send her again 8 weeks after Xmas if you don’t even know where you’re supposed and to be taking her. There are also going to be financial considerations. Yes travel costs are going to be a significant part of your family finances, but you can’t go into debt over contact either. Do you think he’d engage with mediation?

Birdgirl21 · 16/11/2023 11:52

@GwenGhost He keeps saying we need it, and I say ok no problem, let me know the details, and then he ends up shouting at me. Theres a real theme here isnt there!! I think the consensus from all this great advice is - im doing ok, try and be nice but firm, I don't need to take any more of his rubbish, and realistic was a really good choice of words.

This has been really invaluable for me to have others perspectives, I am so grateful.

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