How do you think CMS should be calculated?

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Just that.

I receive CMS through personal arrangement, and while I'm not over the moon with it and not sure I'd receive more or less through the CMS service, I can see the system is pretty awful for others.

Just wondering how others think the system should work? Should NRP's pay a higher percentage of earnings? Should their lifestyle be taken into account? What should be put in place for those who aren't earning at all? (I think they should be made to do voluntary work and in return the RP receives additional payment, albeit with health taken into consideration).

I also don't agree with NRP's being able to reduce their payment if they move in with someone who already has children.

Just a general debate really!

We had a 3 bed house before kids. We don’t pay for childcare

@TheFormidableMrsC the tales I could tell. I've had letters saying one thing and I call to be told that's wrong. I call and get told something only to get a letter saying the opposite. I had a call saying they would deduct from his wages, got a call for my account details and got a tiny payment- when I called to chase as nothing since they have no record and say it's not set up to deduct. Everything is a shambles and everyone contradicts each other.

Redneck - It's very unusual not to pay for any childcare. A lot of people have a childcare bill comparable to their rent/mortgage How old is your child? I'm assuming baby if the percentage is so small and I'm also assuming a wage in the "normal" range.

Should be 30% first child and an extra 5% for additional children capped at 45%.
No reductions for extra children born to nrp or their step children.

Also jail for non payment.

@secre your dh stills spends a much higher percentage of his income on himself rather than on his dc.

DH earns £50k, DD is 4. I work full time from home,

DH hasn't had a penny from DSC 'D'M.

She has no contact and job hops.

She is now apparently about to emigrate with her latest bf so the likelihood of her ever paying is zilch.

I think it should be much harder for NRP to avoid paying. The loopholes are to big.

I think savings should be taken into account. Exh is unemployed but he has 100s of thousands in the bank and his children get zilch.

I do think some men don’t work deliberately so that they don’t have to pay child maintenance (exh for one.) If payments were increased it might encourage more to give up work.

redneck are you a childminder?

Childcare should be considered. The NRP should either pay for half, or go half of the childcare.

No I am not a child minder, I run a business making soap!

So who looks after your DD while you’re doing that?

Redneck - do you own the house outright? Could you get a mortgage and afford it on your own if you got 50% of the current equity in your home and remained self employed?

Yes I could carry on paying the mortgage.

I look after DD while I am working.

@MyDcAreMarvel yes... because he has to actually be able to afford a place to live (and for children to visit) bills, food, car/petrol to get to work, other necessities. He couldn't afford to spend the same on them as "himself" and neither could their mother. I agree if you're talking about leisure money but when you're including a mortgage and the running costs of a house it doesn't work like that!

I think they should just take a % of income per child out of the nrp' s wages via the PAYE system
SE a bit t more complicated but shouldn't be that complicated
Csa/cms are useless and its all bound up with their inefficiency and real emotion

That can’t always have been safe redneck!

You must run a very successful company if you could afford all costs with 3% Child maintenance from your partner.

It’s safe, she has her own play area in the soap barn so can’t get to the chemicals

And a nanny? Or were you constantly running from pots to her back and forth when she was a baby?

Anyway, regardless of that, you must see that your situation (large house, no childcare costs, and no loss of income) isn’t the usual situation when a non parent becomes a parent?

I am a childminder but have a child with sn’s So limited what work I can do. So I don’t have childcare costs but my income is limited.

This however isn’t about one individual person’s circumstances This is about bro actually making a contribution to their children’s lives.

I wouldn’t call it a big house (2640sqft) I get there are people in different situations but the question was asking opinion