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would you consider this to be DV?

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popalot · 03/04/2011 00:19

I'm 1.5 years down the line from splitting with ex and have used mumsnet a bit for coming to terms with things eg. lone parenting and relocating etc etc

But in my life although I have come on so far and actually feel very stable and happy I still have a lot of anger and resentment about what happened between me and the father of my child.

Today I was talking to my mum n sis about what happened and for the first time I called it domestic violence. But they obviously didn't feel this was the case, that he was just not a nice bloke and a bit of a drinker.

But I feel it's important for my healing to identify what happened to me and understand it. So what is your opinion?

Some rough details;
He started off loving and could often be loving.
Problems began by him not bringing wages home and spending it on booze/curries instead of helping with rent. Meant I had to return to work very quickly after brith against my wishes.
He would put me down on a daily basis saying for example I didn't stand up straight, had no rhythm, couldn't cook. Was less than complimentary about my abilities in the sack but didn't seem to want to bother to satisfy me if you know what I mean (bit embarassing to reveal but actually one of the things that hurts me the most).
If I asked him if he had been paid he would brush me off, if I pressed it he would call me a fing c**t often infront of my dd, then disappear for days on a drinking binge.
He kicked me in the legs, grabbed my arm, held me down by my throat on the kitchen floor, threw beer cans at me, threw a table at me once for leaving some hair in the sink etc
Would often urinate in various places in the house at night and deny it was him the next morn and refuse to clean it up and laugh at me when I got upset
Call me a silly bch if I cried, which i did increasingly because I felt I couldn't cope with all the strain of it all
Told me I had given myself a bruise grip mark on my arm - the last time I confronted him about him giving me bruises
Finally he said he was going to murder me and my girl in our beds if i didn't shut up when he wantd to go back to the pub to see 'his friends' (he told me no-one liked me) at 1.30am when I asked him where he was going. The next morning the locks were changed.

Do you consider this DV or am I over-reacting? I seem to be stuck in my process of recovery over this. Is this 'normal' relationship stuff?

Help me get myself straight. For the last 1.5 plus year I have been going over this stuff every day, often many times a day. I sleep at night now so the insomnia has stopped. But it's like a broken record and I just want someone to say 'this is what happenend to you' and then 'this is how to get over it'

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FannyFifer · 03/04/2011 08:25

What does your DD mean exactly by daddy being mean?

I don't think I would allow him contact with her without your supervision, the fact he was sexually inappropriate towards your mother is ringing big alarm bells.

Glad you have managed to get away, very sad fir you that you had to ask was it domestic violence.

saffronwblue · 03/04/2011 08:39

You say you feel stuck going over it in your head but in fact you are obviously proccessing it and making sense of a really horrible part of your life. Counselling will help this process but you have started it yourself. Try not to get too involved in protecting the next girlfriend - it would be good to neutrally give her the facts at a time that is right for you and your DD but don't get sucked into the drama that is no doubt in their future.

popalot · 03/04/2011 09:30

thanks everyone!!
re. dd saying daddy was mean she means when she witnessed various outbursts, the verbal ones, she never saw him physically attack me. Altho he jumped up and down and she would laugh and say 'daddy's dancing'. She was only 2 going on 3 but she still brings up his 'scary eyes' and shows me how he used to look at her. He was starting to become more threatening towards her. He showed me once how he put her to bed when I was at work (had to work long hours) and basically he would get up close to her face and sneer 'shut your eyes, now'.
Shame shame shame on me for not getting the fuck out when he told me that, but it wasn't long after that that we split up. He left her in a locked car whilst he went drinking once and when she woke up he couldn't open the door and smashed the window. So he frightened her a few times. Obviously he gave me a completely different story about this but I got to the truth in the end.
Oh my god just reading that has made me realise that my dd has issues about dv even tho she was so young. My first memory was pushing a pram in nursery. She talks about stuff he did when she was 2 -3 and I hate to think her first memories are me crying and him shouting. Tho she also said to my auntie that once daddy was shouting and mummy shouted back [eek!] and that she told daddy to 'stop it' and mummy went off and cried. To my recollection she never did say this but obviously she wanted to.
Shame on me really, should have protected her more. The only thing I can say in my defence is that I was completely emotionally trapped and just very worn out by it. Hard to explain living on edge like that but basically I just about functioned and it took me a long time since splitting to do things like laugh again prroperly, not the fake laugh etc.
Anyway, I will seek counselling and discuss with them my dd's issues and also never ever allow him to have her in his care without supervision. Easy to do because he really shows very little interest in her. Poor baby.

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SpringchickenGoldBrass · 03/04/2011 10:33

Right, definitely no unsupervised contact for this man. ANd TBH You may want to consider some counselling for your DD or at least getting some advice on talking to her: it sounds like she has had several frightening experiences at this man's hands. His behaviour sounds so erratic and potentially dangerous I think you might be better off cutting contact with him altogether - do you have any evidence of injuries, or nasty emails or texts from him?

thumbwitch · 03/04/2011 10:43

Oh God, that's so sad! it sounds like now you've started to open up about things, more memories are coming to the fore - go and see about counselling as soon as you can, before the memories start to get a bit much.

It should be possible to get counselling for your DD as well - I do know one absolutlely lovely child counsellor in the UK, so I know they exist - I know she had children as young as 3 in her practice. Depending on where you are, I could let you have her name - she practises around the NW Surrey/SW London area.

mpuddleduck · 03/04/2011 22:34

Well done popalot, sounds like you are really starting to help yourself and your dd cope with you experiences with ex. I try and tell myself it doesn't matter what happened in the past it is the future that counts and I need to be positive, but the past does seem to keep creeping back in and knocking me down again, although my dc seem to be coping well, so well done you on doing something about it, apart from confiding in MN some of us aren't so brave.

cestlavielife · 03/04/2011 22:51

yes it was dv - but i get that you dont see yourself necessarily as a "victim"or even a "survivor" - tho clearly you are a strong person.
counselling can help - i also remembered many other things in counselling /saw more clearly.

NicknameTaken · 04/04/2011 12:02

You've done well to get out, and tbh, I think you're lucky that he is far away and lazy enough that he won't be chasing access. Supervised access only, I agree.

I think it's quite normal to be a bit numb to the full extent of DV while it is ongoing. It's a self-protective mechanism. Towards the end of my relationship, I was walking through a fairground with my ex. He wanted to go on the shooting range, and he kept swinging round the gun and pretending to shoot me and laughing. Part of me knew that it was off, but I felt absolutely nothing. It's a small incident, but it made me realize my own numbness.

popalot · 04/04/2011 17:36

exactly Nickname, you become desensitised to it.
I think you start to remember things and get angry again because with distance and time you get your sensitivity back. And have a sort of freedom to feel angry and upset about it when before you had to hide or control those emotions as much as you could to carry on with daily life.

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NicknameTaken · 05/04/2011 09:49

Yes, it's healthy and a sign of healing to get that anger back.

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