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Mum is terminally ill, how much help is available and when to ask for it?

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FranklyMeDeer · 03/11/2016 20:34

My mum has stage 4 pancreatic cancer. She was diagnosed about a month ago, she has liver and lung mets, she was told there isn't much that can be done medically and she's been referred to palliative care.

She lives alone, my sister lives locally and has been spending a lot of time at Mums, our other siblings and I all live a few hours away and we're taking it in turns to go up to her so dsis can have some time off.

Mums health has declined at a reasonably rapid rate and she's now effectively trapped upstairs at home because a) she can't manage the stairs and she has no downstairs toilet and b) she can't do much at all before fatigue overwhelms her and she needs to be in bed - eg yesterday she had a quick shower, sitting on a stool, and that was enough to have her in bed for the next 24 hours.

She is under the care of the community team from the local hospice (they act in lieu of Macmillan in mum's area for community help) who saw her last week, and said at the time that she was ok to stay home for now, although she has expressed a wish for end of life care at the hospice, the time has not yet come for her to be admitted.

Today I've rung her GP and asked them to see her, as her quality of life is zero and my sister's mental health is suffering. (there's a whole other thread's worth of stuff about my mum's shitty attitude towards my sister which has been going on for years). GP suggested possible referral to social services for a care package to help her out at home.

To be honest this whole situation is completely outside any experience I have, I have no idea what to expect. It's clear to me that mum is coming to the end of her life, and emotional stuff aside, I don't now how to deal with the practicalities.

My sister can't look after her full time, due to the back story and my sister's mental health she finds it really hard to be under the same roof. She is a lot younger than my brothers and I, her upbringing was very different to ours and was, at best, less than ideal. Our dad died 20+ years ago and she's never had another partner. Brothers and I live too far away to be there any more than a few days at a time so she gets respite.

How much outside help can we realistically expect? At what point would she be admitted to hospital/hospice for end of life care? Is there a chance that we may have to deal with her dying at home? How do we know when to ask for more help?

I have been told by my employer that I can take time off when I need to, but I doubt that this would extend to weeks/months off and still expect a job to return to.

I could waffle on for pages about all the issues we have with our relationship with Mum and all the emotional crap this is stirring up, but focusing on the practicalities for now is keeping me sane.

It doesn't help that Mums sisters think she's some kind of saint, and can't understand why we're all so wary of her. My brothers are being passive and saying "well done" a lot and my sister is falling apart. I'm losing it here and I don't know what to do.

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iseenodust · 09/11/2016 09:32

Hope you felt listened to by the hospice nurse and a more comprehensive care package is being put in place.

FranklyMeDeer · 09/11/2016 16:51

Thank you, yes, the hospice nurse was amazing, just brilliant. She did loads of chasing and shouting for us.

Off the back of that, the district nurse finally came today, we've been waiting a week or more for this visit. She's getting a hospital bed and will have carers come in four times a day to help her. It's such a relief to know that we're not dealing with this on our own now.

I have to say, that all the individual doctors, nurses and other staff I've dealt with have been nothing short of outstanding, however it would appear that mum had fallen down a big crack in the system somewhere as she was urgently referred to the district nursing team two weeks ago and we had our first visit today. The district nurse was shocked we hadn't been seen before now and didn't have any of the paperwork with her that she should have had, as she assumed it would already be here. This is despite the hospice nurse ringing the district nurses office yesterday to complain that it wasn't here and that it needed to be brought ASAP. This is alongside her having to chase up mum's DNR form, the prescription to go with the 'just in case' drugs and a couple of other bits of paper we should have had ages ago.

But never mind, the point is that we're getting there now and things are all in hand.

Mum is getting noticeably weaker all the time but seems settled and comfortable in herself which of course is our main concern.

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Helenluvsrob · 09/11/2016 16:57

Not read the full thread but find out about an assessment for continuing health care funding. Likely this will fail and need appealing but if terminally I'll you should get it. Basically it means her care needs are directly due to her medical needs therefore funded by NHS not Soc services. The amount is not limited other than by what she needs. It means you can pay night sitters etc and as much as you want to care , weeks or months down the line when you've been careing , you won't have any personal resource to do nights as well.

Aldo get power of attorney for both Heath and finance asap. There is a lag time before they are even useable and you might have missed the boat if she's deteriorating quickly but still it makes everything easier down the line.

Much hugs. Sorry if it's a bit to the point but I'm not good at flannel. I do sadly have much experience of dying parents and dealing with soc services etc etc so on me if I can help at alk

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