Behind my house will be a Council development

[JuliaMC]

Hi,
I bought my house 2 years ago in a small town on a Council estate. The house is a terrace house with a very small back garden. When we decided to buy the house the area was very quiet and very well located, had a field with flowers and trees behind the house and a lovely view over the Snowdonia Mountains.
Now we received a letter from a private developer that just behind my back garden on that field it will be a development of a care home with 40 beds, a 75 beds of extra care, a community hub, a new road and a car park for 50 cars. Me and my neighbors went for an open evening and chat with the developer and raised our concerns. In the plans the car park boundaries are literally behind my back garden that is only 4x4 meters. I am concerned that this will affect my privacy, will de evaluate the property, pollution, noise, loosing the view, will affect my family mental health and wellbeing as I have a child with severe ADHD/ASD.
I have sent emails to everyone involved with photos, what else can I do? Can I request a compensation?

If humans feel like the OP, imagine what the animals and plants feel / have been feeling for ages

People are all about me, myself & I

The building work will obviously be disruptive to an extent. As for 'compensation', you'd have to prove the build was damaging the peaceful enjoyment of your home, so this would be evidence you'd need to collect over time.
You can object to the council planning team, but they may have it all in place now legally.
A car park and care home, once up and running, will be very quiet and undusruptive neighbours. It's much worse to have a big block of flats directly on your garden boundary.

It may be that you can get some landscaping, trees or a wider gap between your fence and the closest building.
We are near a Care Home, trees and a parking area between us. Houses round the corner get more traffic noise because of deliveries to kitchen and patients transport, but it is all in the daytime. Not much night traffic.

I live in one of those green areas. Completely and utterly unsuitable for mass development of building. We are one of the most deprived areas, cheap housing, lack of infrastructure, lack of jobs, poor public transport, poor access to motorways. Building here isn't cost effective because no one would want to buy the properties keeping the prices so low that it wouldn't cover the development costs.

I understand your concerns but honestly it’s likely the best option if the land has to be built on at all ( which it will as a developer has obviously got involved ).

care home / hub think is going to be busy weekdays may be but not much evening / weekend disruption, I mean they aren’t out partying till the small hours 🤣. It’s also unlikely to be a teen hang out / joy riding type car park because the home won’t allow it.

a residential development at the back of yours would be far worse depending on the neighbours

Depending on the people resident. Near us there was a new care home which caused serious neighbour nuisance due to residents being allowed outside at night to shout. The people nearby have not complained recently which means either they've got used to it or the home has stopped allowing the person out at night.
This one also seriously underestimated the amount of car nuisance to local residents too. 21 beds so 21 spaces inside the grounds. The road outside is often full of cars too.
They also did their consultation exercise at Friday tea time which a cynical person might assume was to reduce the numbers of people who could attend.

For now. It may take a few thousand years or so but it won't last. We keep building, towns keep expanding, it's necessary when population grows. Maybe there'll be no more medical advances and population growth will stagnate? Otherwise we'll need to keep building. London was fields once other than a little bit in the centre, look at it now. It didn't take all that long really. When London was fields we were sending convicted criminals to Australia because there was "nothing" there (not quite true that, but that's another subject). Plenty towns full of people there now though. Times change. Britain getting full up is not something any of us have to worry about in our lifetime, but in the grand scheme of things I can't see the point in some NIMBY getting worked up about a care home next door. She can move elsewhere if it bothers her that much. Like you said, there's currently plenty of space.

The new development is by the center of the town at the edge of a council estate, there is land in other places but very powerful people lives there and they knew that they're not going to be happy.

So you really expected to live in town centre and keep a nice view of fields forever more OP? Bit daft. (As is name changing mid thread so your posts don't show up in the correct colour).

This would fit nicely in the ageism thread!!!!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
Don't be too sure that the odd spliff or two won't be consumed. Just because you are old, doesn't mean you stop all your pleasures in life! Pluse it's great for pain and joint stiffness.
There may be some wheelchair doughnut competitions on a Saturday night...

Eh no, @VestibuleVirgin . Not because they're old. Because they're in a care home. You've obviously got no idea just how fucked up you have to be to get to live in one.

Honestly OP I'm going to agree with everyone else who says if it's not the care home then you could end up with a massive housing development behind you. I used to live directly across from a large public health clinic / community care type centre and it was fine. Absolutely no anti social behaviour at all and the building was always really well maintained.

Nothing you can do
You don't own the field and you can't own a view

As others have said, you don’t own a view.

And after reading the name changed replies, I can’t decide what the actual problem with (specifically) a car park is, or whether it’s a NIMBY approach to any/all development.

Meadowtrees · Today 06:12
Belis- have you ever seen Britain from above? It is mostly green - there is lots of space

Absolutely. All this, “we’re full” nonsense spouted by certain political parties is an out and out lie. The real problem is an inept government that has systematically run down public services and not met housing needs.

My mother is watching 16 houses being built right behind her at the moment. It has blocked her lovely view of the hills and woodland.
Nothing to be done about it.
Also it's a housing association build, so they are shared ownership and some for rent.
Her ground floor flat is now very dark inside. Sadly BUPA tried to get permission to build a nursing home on that site and the council in their wisdom refused a few times. It would have been much nicer for the retirement flats than the tall dark roofs that she can see now.
You'll be better off with a care home than houses, much quieter I would think.

mumda
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Depending on the people resident. Near us there was a new care home which caused serious neighbour nuisance due to residents being allowed outside at night to shout. The people nearby have not complained recently which means either they've got used to it or the home has stopped allowing the person out at night.
This one also seriously underestimated the amount of car nuisance to local residents too. 21 beds so 21 spaces inside the grounds. The road outside is often full of cars too.
They also did their consultation exercise at Friday tea time which a cynical person might assume was to reduce the numbers of people who could attend.”

Nope, sorry, still don’t see the issue. Presumably it’s a public road. People are allowed to use/park on it.

Anyone buying a new house, next to a field, on the edge of a town must surely be aware that new construction is a real possibility.

After all, their houses infringed on the existing neighbours when they were built.

People need homes/care homes/schools/hospitals/services. They are generally located in towns. If you want silence and an uninterrupted view forevermore , buy a house in the middle of nowhere and the fields surrounding it.

There is a difference between a care home and a nursing home. Residents of the former generally only require basic care and are largely independent.
Nusing home residents need nursing care and are therefore likely to be 'fucked up' as you so eloquently and judgementally put it.
So yes, care home residents are pefectly cspable of going behind the bins for s spliff

Thank you to everyone for the comments and advice.
To clarify a few things:

1. A residential home is for adults that have 24/7 carers and needs different assistance to meet their needs
2. A extra care facility is similar like a Residential home but the residents are more independent and have cares a few hours a day depending on their needs
3. Me and my neighbors we are not concerned about the above and we don't dispute the need of this
4. Our concern is the car park will be literally behind our back door and the new one way road that will make the area to build more traffic when we already have this problem anyway

I don't think anyone would like to have no privacy when is out in the garden sunbathing, a barbecue or just sitting there. The noise to break the rocks and the construction itself it will be directly under our bedrooms, and for someone who works nights like myself and our elderly neighbors as well for my son with severe ADHD/ASD that gets extremely overwhelmed by loud noises it's a concern.
That land it was there from the 70's and when new houses were built the people asked about it were told that land was not suitable for construction at that time and will stay like that.
I don't understand why some of the comments are so judgemental just because I asked a question.

You can object if it goes to planning, someone posted already what reasons you can use for your objections, unfortunately loss of a view isn’t one. We had a planning application behind us successfully refused, but that was down to lack of public amenities in the area, lack of transport ( for a sustainable development) and it was outside the designated planning area for our area.

What stage is this development at?
Had it got planning permission?
Is the land designated for care home /residential in your local authority Local Plan (I'm assuming you're in Gwynedd. You might not be!).
If planning hasn't been granted, you may still have an opportunity to object, but be mindful of what the land is designated for. Have you bought your house since 2007? What came up in the conveyancing?

If planning had been granted, you could still object, although this may not be very fruitful. You could potentially influence stuff like working hours though.

I assume you are the original OP. No one is being judgemental, people are disagreeing with your opinions and concerns. Facilities like this are needed and i am afraid you will have to put up with the noise whilst it is being built and the car park. It is not all about you. Read the news, social care is on its knees as there are not enough spaces to help the most vulnerable in our communities, your son is going to be one when he reaches adulthood.

This.

Houses with fields, open spaces, views, used to be a selling point but now with the plans to make building new home easier, it's a bright red flag unless you can afford to buy the land yourself.

I'm sorry this is happening to you.

Where I live you need I think it’s 6 planning objections before the plans go to the area committee - so get your neighbours to also write objections. Also we have to state we object so start the letter I am writing to object to planning no 455/24 - - I would say i have serious concerns about proximity of cars/buildings /whatever due to your short back gardens. Noise, exhaust fumes etc. they might insist a stretch of grass or hedge is between your gardens and the car park in the plans.4m is quite short.
worth trying.
Are the roads adequate for the volume of traffic - that is a reason plans are refused.

I live in Anglesey
At this point is just the application and the plans for the site.
All my neighbors made already a group with different objections and a petition.
I bought the house 2 years ago

I am the original op.
We are objecting just for the position of the car park and the new road when it could be placed somewhere else on the plans that's all.

One other thing I just thought of is that once planning is obtained for, say, a 75 bed care home, the developers can then easily go back and vary the planning and change it to say 2 x blocks of 12 2 bed flats and 20 large detached houses, on the grounds it's less numbers than they had planning for. This has happened on an estate built near my friend, they were supposed to build a few bungalows and a large care home, said there was no demand and ended up loads of 3 storey huge detached and a few blocks of flats.

So be prepared for that and to object to the additional vehicles a change of numbers like that would produce

OP can't you plant some bushes along the boundary? They wouldn't have to be very tall. Just enough to retain your privacy. I'm assuming it is a ground level carpark in which case the bush/fence only needs to be about 5-6 feet tall.

Belis - i hesitate to inject a note of existential gloom into a thread about planning permission, but the UK obviously won’t be entirely urban in a few thousand years. Because climate change / a novel virus with a high mortality rate leading to pandemic / antibiotic resistance/ nuclear Armageddon will have extincted us reduced the population by then. Also lots of the UK is too hilly to build on.