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Left something in Will that someone else has

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toastedcrumpetsrock · 31/12/2023 00:04

I was left a number of things in the Will of a family member, all the same, relating to their and my profession- for example 10 typewriters of various age and condition, I had thought one was missing but couldn't be certain.
I have just seen a sm post of said 'typewriter' from someone else in the same profession who has 'borrowed' it from the relatives widow - where do I stand on this? I was never given a list of the items in the Will it was just termed ... I give toasted crumpets all of my typewriters absolutely.

OP posts:
fromhellsheartistabatthee · 01/01/2024 09:18

How many old typewriters does one person actually need?

belgiumchocolates · 01/01/2024 09:40

Sounds arkward but the typwriter legitamately belongs to OP and she is doing nothing wrong in asking for it.

Have you received the other typewriters OP and just this one oustanding ,or are you waiting for them all ?

GnomeDePlume · 01/01/2024 10:57

@toastedcrumpetsrock Do you know who it has been loaned to?

Would you be able to write a letter to that person:

Dear Bob,
I understand that you were loaned typewriter X (include make/model) by DF. This typewriter is part of a bequest made to me by DF. I am happy for that loan to continue until X date.

If you have any queries on this matter then please contact Sue & Leggit Solicitors (add address).
Yours sincerely
Toasted

This way you are documenting the change of ownership, specifying what exactly is loaned and putting a time limit to the loan.

It is better to be clear. The person may think that the typewriter is now theirs by default. You don't want them selling it, giving it away or taking it to the tip simply because of a lack of clarity.

OVienna · 01/01/2024 11:10

Mellowautumnmists · 01/01/2024 08:44

I'm assuming you're in England/Wales @toastedcrumpetsrock?

If so, then I agree with previous poster - some very peculiar answers indeed.

I shudder to think what must go on following the death of someone when their estates are distributed given some of the replies on here.

Assuming the gift/legacy is still available then it has to be distributed in accordance with the terms of the will unless a deed of variation by the beneficiary is made.

To do otherwise could render the executives personally liable.

Quite.

GnomeDePlume · 01/01/2024 11:23

The difficulty with collections of things is that DF's widow may just see the collection as dust catchers and not understand why any one would value the collection. Hence not being careful with distributing bequests.

My DF collected a particular type of history book. To a house clearance person these would end up in a skip. To the right sort of book dealer some of the books were very scarce and had significant value. After DF died DM gave the books to DB1 as he understood their significance.

toastedcrumpetsrock · 01/01/2024 12:52

@GnomeDePlume I think this is ultimately what I will do, to the posters asking how many typewriters I need to remember him by, none, but I do use them all in my professional work as did he and possibly my ds will too. The person who now has it uses it too and I'm happy for them to continue that for the time being but would eventually like it in my family not his

OP posts:
toastedcrumpetsrock · 01/01/2024 12:57

In answer to the other questions
I am in the uk
I received the other typewriters a few months after his death.
I saw a sm post showing off the missing typewriter in the course of work and stating it was on loan from widow

OP posts:
GnomeDePlume · 01/01/2024 13:12

In that case definitely contact the person and clarify the typewriter is yours not the widow's.

You could copy in the executors as well. It is possible the widow has been less careful with the minor bequests which the executors will need to get a grip of.

BunnyBunnyJabberJabber · 01/01/2024 21:37

I'd probably let it go. But I'm someone who doesn't really think fighting over the possessions of a deceased loved-one ever ends well.

Toastyfeetbythefire · 30/09/2024 17:02

Did you manage to resolve the situation OP? @toastedcrumpetsrock

toastedcrumpetsrock · 30/09/2024 18:55

I haven't done anything about it yet, there's been lots going on, I will probably email or visit the person who has it and try to avoid involving Aunt at all.

OP posts:
ZebraD · 30/09/2024 20:40

Sneaky…

badgerpatrol · 30/09/2024 20:55

BunnyBunnyJabberJabber · 01/01/2024 21:37

I'd probably let it go. But I'm someone who doesn't really think fighting over the possessions of a deceased loved-one ever ends well.

Yes.
Seems odd to really want the 10th typewriter when you have received 9.

Unless the typewriter is worth £££ and the op doesn't want to disclose this is their motivation.

I heard lots of people go looney over wills & inheritance but hard to imagine getting worked up over this.

BrakesOn · 30/09/2024 21:29

fromhellsheartistabatthee · 01/01/2024 09:18

How many old typewriters does one person actually need?

I think she used typewriters as an example, it's not actually that. It could be ten chainsaws or violins or horses or chisels or fountain pens...depending on what the work is that she refers to. So we don't know why she'd want ten of them, but that's not really the point.

MilesOfCarpetTiles · 30/09/2024 21:46

Exactly; it's not literal typewriters the OP is talking about!

OneRarelySeesABrazierTheseDays · 01/10/2024 13:59

ZebraD · 31/12/2023 14:49

I don’t really understand why you would want to bother in all honesty. Why cause an upset for someone who has lost their husband over one typewriter. You have the rest and something to remember them by. You sound like a dog with a bone on this and I personally do not think it is worth the upset. But it’s up to you - remember you reap what you sow though…

Unnecessary

twomanyfrogsinabox · 01/10/2024 14:12

Can you contact the person who borrowed it directly, explain the situation and say you don't want to bother the widow, but could they return it to you directly.

Blusterydaytodaypoohbear · 01/10/2024 14:15

If the widow has a moral compass she should respect her dearly departed spouse and adhere to their wishes. I hope you get your item op.

thepariscrimefiles · 01/10/2024 14:16

ZebraD · 30/09/2024 20:40

Sneaky…

No it's not. It is legally the OP's property. She doesn't want to upset the Aunt which is why she will contact the person directly. You seem determined that the will which outlines the wishes of the deceased should not be followed.

toastedcrumpetsrock · 01/10/2024 18:24

To address some questions/ comments:
I didn't think I was 'like a dog with a bone' I simply asked a question on the legal topic for some clarity- I haven't mentioned it to anyone irl
Asking the person directly seemed less upsetting than asking Aunt but maybe I should rethink this.
It's not a recent bereavement and I'm not sure if there is a time limit given that I now know who has the item - it has been 5 years.
Yes it's not typewriters, more like classic cars or violins so yes it is valuable but probably less value than the ones I already own and I am not interested in selling it or any of the others.
I use these items every day for work, a career that was inspired by my Uncle and inspired for him from his Grandad and something my ds is interested in.

OP posts:
Sisterpita · 02/10/2024 08:45

@toastedcrumpetsrock I cannot see how anyone could accuse you of being like a dog with a bone.

The will was quite clear and you have allowed time to pass.

I think your proposal of contacting the person who has the item is the right one. They acknowledge the item is on loan and a polite letter/email would see a reasonable person return it.

Toastyfeetbythefire · 02/10/2024 10:02

Sisterpita · 02/10/2024 08:45

@toastedcrumpetsrock I cannot see how anyone could accuse you of being like a dog with a bone.

The will was quite clear and you have allowed time to pass.

I think your proposal of contacting the person who has the item is the right one. They acknowledge the item is on loan and a polite letter/email would see a reasonable person return it.

I agree. I do hope that you manage to find a way to sort this out OP. I’m guessing that the person who has it doesn’t realise that it was left to you.

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