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Landlady wants the house back

253 replies

GuinnessBird · 21/06/2023 15:40

Our landlady knocked on our door this morning, she's split up with her partner and wants her house back but we signed a contract in February this year for a twelve month lease.

We've never missed a rent payment and the house is immaculate so there’s no reason she can give other than that she wants the house back.

Where do we stand? Can she ask us to leave before February next year?

OP posts:
ToTheMoonandBack2xRoundthesun · 22/06/2023 18:58

This happened to me. Told her that I'd signed a Contract for a year and she had no just cause or reason to terminate just beause her relationship had ended. We spoke to the Portection scheme our deposit went into and the Agent we rented from. They agreed. We stayed until we got sorted and made the agency aware she came in and made unauthorised visits when we where not home. And snooped about. Our neighbours told us !. Apparently she did this with previous tenants too. Agency where horrified and took her off the books afterwards.

She hadn't a leg to stand on. Tenants have rights and make sure you read your contract thoroughly. Good luck x

JenWillsiam · 22/06/2023 19:06

Toomuchtrouble4me · 22/06/2023 18:38

Sect 21. Took 6 months.

You cannot issue a section 21 is the middle of an AST.

Section 21 notice of seeking possessionYou can use a Section 21 notice to evict your tenants either:

  • after a fixed term tenancy ends - if there’s a written contract
  • during a tenancy with no fixed end date - known as a ‘periodic’ tenancy
MzHz · 22/06/2023 19:08

GuinnessBird · 21/06/2023 21:51

We have changed the locks.

Shelter told me that even if our tenancy agreement prohibits it, unless we cause damage in changing the locks then the only recourse that the landlady has is to have us change them back at the end of our tenancy which we'll do anyway.

Ignore anyone who says you can do this, they’re wrong and Shelter advised me the same.

we DO have the rights to change the locks on the understanding that we change them as we leave.

I had this like 10 years ago with an absolute arse of a LL. I checked, double checked and triple checked

nobody has any right to enter your home if you don’t want them to.

she’s showing herself as a loon, protect yourselves

it’s going to be crap, but that’s not on you.

she might like to make you a massive cash offer to move, but shrieking at you won’t work

MzHz · 22/06/2023 19:11

Keeping everything in writing from now on is essential, don’t take any more calls, don’t open the door to her

email her to inform her that any direct contact with you via phone or face to face will be considered harassment and the police will be advised

wildfirewonder · 22/06/2023 19:16

Just sending strength really. Far too many dreadful landlords.

I hope she calms down.

booksandcats22 · 22/06/2023 19:31

Toomuchtrouble4me · 22/06/2023 18:34

Yes she can give you 8 weeks notice. If you refuse then she can take you to court - the process will take 6 months.
sounds as though she’s having a tough time and needs her home back. It’s not yours, it’s hers. Is it worth the hassle? You’re going to have to move anyway and it could well fall just before Xmas if you resist.

Absolutely disgusting of course it's the tenants home when they've signed a contract and paid rent.

JenWillsiam · 22/06/2023 19:42

Toomuchtrouble4me · 22/06/2023 18:37

We got ours out via courts under section 21. It took just under 6 months. Contact was for another 5 months.

So basically at the end of the tenancy anyway 😂😂

LegendsBeyond · 22/06/2023 19:45

Poor woman, it’s her house and she has nowhere to go. Just find somewhere else or don’t expect a good reference.

Oysterbabe · 22/06/2023 19:47

Toomuchtrouble4me · 22/06/2023 18:34

Yes she can give you 8 weeks notice. If you refuse then she can take you to court - the process will take 6 months.
sounds as though she’s having a tough time and needs her home back. It’s not yours, it’s hers. Is it worth the hassle? You’re going to have to move anyway and it could well fall just before Xmas if you resist.

You can't do this during the fixed term. If you're a landlord it might be worth familiarising yourself with the law.

cantcopenow · 22/06/2023 19:47

Poor woman, it’s her house and she has nowhere to go.

Because she signed a legally binding contract to allow someone else the use of her house for a set period of time, in exchange for money!

pollymere · 22/06/2023 19:54

I can't imagine she won't fight but I hope that's the end of it OP.

tribpot · 22/06/2023 19:54

Poor woman, it’s her house and she has nowhere to go.

Neither does OP and her DH. There's 8 months to go on this tenancy, landlady rents somewhere else for 6 months+, job done. I think it would do some landlords a world of good to be tenants from time to time - I'm a landlord, I've been a tenant.

Twentyfirstcenturymumma · 22/06/2023 20:10

CovertImage · 21/06/2023 16:01

Given you're going to have to leave in Feb anyway, I'd rather do it now

What, 8 months early. Is this a joke?

@CovertImage 8 months early is not a joke re starting to look. Nightmare situation for renters trying to find their next house.... it could easily take that long. V sensible advice re summer months, imo.

It's also a nightmare situation for landlords tbf, re mortgage repayments. That's why lots are selling their properties as they canmot charge enough rent to cover their costs.
I'm neither a landlord or a tenant currently, my 20 something kids are renters...nightmare situation all round
Remember Trussonomics? Brief but deadly...

JudgeAnderson · 22/06/2023 20:30

Poor woman, it’s her house and she has nowhere to go. Just find somewhere else or don’t expect a good reference.

I mean, she can rent?

DismantledKing · 22/06/2023 20:30

LegendsBeyond · 22/06/2023 19:45

Poor woman, it’s her house and she has nowhere to go. Just find somewhere else or don’t expect a good reference.

Tough shit

hattie43 · 22/06/2023 20:31

Buy your own home .

Freckles978 · 22/06/2023 20:33

She should have given you 48 hours notice before knocking on your door! That is out of order her coming like that to your door

DismantledKing · 22/06/2023 20:33

hattie43 · 22/06/2023 20:31

Buy your own home .

Because it’s as easy as that.
For fuck’s sake, some of the people you get on here.

WilkinsonM · 22/06/2023 20:36

Densol57 · 22/06/2023 18:26

Obviously not until the contract ends, and via a court order if necessary but she will eventually win. Such a situation is very stressful for tenants - its not like on the TV.

I once gave one of my tenants a YEARS rent to leave so I could sell and they snapped my hand off.

OP has given no indication she won't leave at the end of the period.

WilkinsonM · 22/06/2023 20:37

Toomuchtrouble4me · 22/06/2023 18:34

Yes she can give you 8 weeks notice. If you refuse then she can take you to court - the process will take 6 months.
sounds as though she’s having a tough time and needs her home back. It’s not yours, it’s hers. Is it worth the hassle? You’re going to have to move anyway and it could well fall just before Xmas if you resist.

No she can't. It is the OP's home until the end of the tenancy. Yes it probably is worth the hassle.

SophiaElizabethGrace · 22/06/2023 20:53

Jesus Christ there is some utter bollocks on this thread.

I am sorry for you OP as the whole debacle sounds stressful.

I am pleased that you've changed the locks. I was wondering if the LL may have tried to enter the property in the near future to try and asert her 'authority' and push you to leave.

Good luck

GuinnessBird · 22/06/2023 21:00

I see that the thread has attracted a few hard of thinking posters.

Today has been eventful, I can't say too much but I was at work and DH who was WFH rang me this afternoon saying I think you'd better get home, landlady is trying to force entry and I've called the police.

I thought he was being dramatic but I rushed home and arrived just as two police cars were pulling up, landlady was going absolutely ballistic on the driveway, her ex partner was trying to calm her the fuck down to no avail.

The police rushed over and they tried to calm her, DH had told the emergency operator the gist what had happened and landlady talked herself into being nicked. It was awful to watch, her ex partner couldn't believe it but he was worried she might try something as he heard her during the phone call to DH yesterday.

I've never seen someone so angry.

The police will be in contact if they need anything else but they know the full story and landlady has found a new place to sleep for the night at least.

Good job we did change the locks.

I'm off to have a glass of wine.

OP posts:
ReadingSoManyThreads · 22/06/2023 21:02

@GuinnessBird jesus, that is not ok behaviour!!! I hope you're both ok and hope crazy landlady manages to calm down and get the help that she needs!!!

JenWillsiam · 22/06/2023 21:03

Crikey. That escalated.

booksandcats22 · 22/06/2023 21:04

@GuinnessBird that sounds absolutely horrific and incredibly scary, sorry you and your husband had to go through that I'm pleased she was arrested absolutely disgusting behaviour

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