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DP Speeding 104mph - what happens next?

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Kwbe · 31/03/2023 09:42

My partner got caught speeding (104 on a motorway) with our child in the car (I wasn’t there).
He’s had a court summons for the magistrates but no date yet.
As far as I know it’s just a summons for speeding.

I’m so so angry with him, it was so dangerous and stupid and selfish. And basically it’s made me question our entire relationship and the sort of person/father he is.

so what can I expect to happen next from a legal/repercussions stand point?

As far as google says he could (very likely) face a driving ban, maybe lose his job (he’s a civil servant) and a hefty fine.
Is that about right?
can he drive until he goes to court?

he’s been in touch with a solicitor, well a few, and they’ve all been a bit vague, said get back in touch when he has a court date, it’s been 3 weeks now and no letter/date as yet.

any advice/personal experiences would be really appreciated. I’m so anxious about it all and can’t but think the worst of the worst.

thanks so much x

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Kwbe · 02/04/2023 18:29

Tilllly · 02/04/2023 17:51

I think the service will wait to hear the outcome of the court case - they won't make any decisions that preempt their actions

He'll likely have a disciplinary process and get a written warning, if convicted (which he will be)
It's the catch all bringing the service into disrepute

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Thanks, are you a civil servant/had experience of this? It seems each department is different? I’m not a civil servant and dp is still fairly new (8/9months).
His line manager just said to let him know what happens but apparently, according to dp anyway, seemed unconcerned. He’s emailed the union but not had a response yet.

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Tilllly · 02/04/2023 19:16

I'm in a similar field and have had staff in the wider team in similar situations

I think it unlikely he's dismissed unless there are already issues at work. But they won't ignore that he's broken the law and been convicted. A written warning seems proportionate and in line with what I've seen

Try not to worry. One step at a time

His union rep will help. And presumably advise him to notify his manager in writing
Of the offence
Of the court date
Of the outcome

Tilllly · 02/04/2023 19:17

He's out of his probation period then if he's been there 8/9 months?

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Kwbe · 02/04/2023 19:37

Yeah he’s just out of his probation period. Ill
make sure to tell
him to email his manager as I think he just spoke face to face with him. He works at land reg, doesn’t need to drive as part of his job, has no other issues re performance or disciplinary so is he looking at a formal written warning and a promotion ban or similar?

Thanks again

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Nat6999 · 02/04/2023 19:41

Kwbe the Civil Service are a bit more forgiving, a traffic offence even one that leads to a court appearance won't cause problems, I've worked with people who have gone bankrupt, been charged with assault & GBH, unless a charge leads to jail time it won't affect his job.

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Kwbe · 02/04/2023 20:10

Nat6999 · 02/04/2023 19:41

Kwbe the Civil Service are a bit more forgiving, a traffic offence even one that leads to a court appearance won't cause problems, I've worked with people who have gone bankrupt, been charged with assault & GBH, unless a charge leads to jail time it won't affect his job.

Ah righto thanks, that’s not what others have said, a few said civil service was quite strict so was getting worried

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Giletjaune · 02/04/2023 20:35

How much does K T Price’s lawyer charge?

Missuspotatohead · 02/04/2023 20:38

He can drive until the court date. He’ll be disqualified from driving and be given a hefty fine hopefully. He’s lucky he didn’t kill someone, never mind the danger he out your child in.

prh47bridge · 02/04/2023 20:49

He’ll be disqualified from driving

This is not guaranteed. Given his speed, the sentencing guidelines say he can either be disqualified or given 6 points. They can't do both.

FishChipsMushyPeas · 02/04/2023 20:49

Kwbe · 02/04/2023 20:10

Ah righto thanks, that’s not what others have said, a few said civil service was quite strict so was getting worried

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I'm a civil servant and it's highly unlikely to be an issue.

KateAusten · 02/04/2023 21:10

I thought three figures = a ban

Nat6999 · 02/04/2023 21:42

Kwbe short of committing murder it won't be a problem, I've known staff be caught stealing at work & they kept their jobs.

prh47bridge · 03/04/2023 07:22

KateAusten · 02/04/2023 21:10

I thought three figures = a ban

Not automatically. For speeds of over 101 in a 70mph limit, the sentencing guidelines are a ban of 7-56 days or 6 points (not both).

mumoffourgs · 03/04/2023 08:12

Not massively relevant to the topic at hand however just a suggestion OP, but I wouldn't be naming the specific government department that your husband works for.

ArcticSkewer · 03/04/2023 08:34

Kwbe · 02/04/2023 19:37

Yeah he’s just out of his probation period. Ill
make sure to tell
him to email his manager as I think he just spoke face to face with him. He works at land reg, doesn’t need to drive as part of his job, has no other issues re performance or disciplinary so is he looking at a formal written warning and a promotion ban or similar?

Thanks again

Honestly op, you hugely catastrophise. Now it's a promotion ban you have invented as a possible punishment.

I'd consider addressing this with cbt if I were you - living this way is stressful, for you but also those around you. Mn isn't the happiest place for those prone to anxiety as you all whip each other up into a frenzy of disastrous imaginations.

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Kwbe · 03/04/2023 09:43

Missuspotatohead · 02/04/2023 20:38

He can drive until the court date. He’ll be disqualified from driving and be given a hefty fine hopefully. He’s lucky he didn’t kill someone, never mind the danger he out your child in.

I know, i’m not trying to justify or condone what he did, or looking for a way he can get a lesser punishment, he deserves to be punished for it and as I’ve said in previous posts I could not be more upset about he’s done and the danger he put others and our child in, I just want to know what to expect as it doesn’t just affect him.

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Kwbe · 03/04/2023 09:45

ArcticSkewer · 03/04/2023 08:34

Honestly op, you hugely catastrophise. Now it's a promotion ban you have invented as a possible punishment.

I'd consider addressing this with cbt if I were you - living this way is stressful, for you but also those around you. Mn isn't the happiest place for those prone to anxiety as you all whip each other up into a frenzy of disastrous imaginations.

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Another poster did mention a promotion ban so I’ve not made it up.
Perhaps I am catastrophising but what he’s done is a big deal (to me at least, some seem a bit relaxed about speeding) and there are consequences, but yes I am anxious about what they could be, surely anyone would be.

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Kwbe · 03/04/2023 09:48

Tilllly · 02/04/2023 19:16

I'm in a similar field and have had staff in the wider team in similar situations

I think it unlikely he's dismissed unless there are already issues at work. But they won't ignore that he's broken the law and been convicted. A written warning seems proportionate and in line with what I've seen

Try not to worry. One step at a time

His union rep will help. And presumably advise him to notify his manager in writing
Of the offence
Of the court date
Of the outcome

Thank you that’s really helpful x

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GCWorkNightmare · 03/04/2023 10:07

Kwbe · 03/04/2023 09:45

Another poster did mention a promotion ban so I’ve not made it up.
Perhaps I am catastrophising but what he’s done is a big deal (to me at least, some seem a bit relaxed about speeding) and there are consequences, but yes I am anxious about what they could be, surely anyone would be.

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It’s very common that those with an active warning are ineligible to apply for promotion in many public sector organisations. Warnings can last between 6 and 24 months.

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Kwbe · 03/04/2023 10:11

GCWorkNightmare · 03/04/2023 10:07

It’s very common that those with an active warning are ineligible to apply for promotion in many public sector organisations. Warnings can last between 6 and 24 months.

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Thanks, the timeframe is helpful
information 😊

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FrenchandSaunders · 03/04/2023 10:14

Why would his work even need to know? I wouldn't have told them, none of their business.

My nephew was caught speeding (over 100 on a motorway). I provided a character reference, he sold his fast car and bought a small car with a much smaller engine, he basically did everything he could before the court case. He had his own business which would have gone bust if he'd lost his licence.

Thankfully he didn't lose his licence, ended up with points and a fine ... can't remember how much now.

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Kwbe · 03/04/2023 10:20

FrenchandSaunders · 03/04/2023 10:14

Why would his work even need to know? I wouldn't have told them, none of their business.

My nephew was caught speeding (over 100 on a motorway). I provided a character reference, he sold his fast car and bought a small car with a much smaller engine, he basically did everything he could before the court case. He had his own business which would have gone bust if he'd lost his licence.

Thankfully he didn't lose his licence, ended up with points and a fine ... can't remember how much now.

It’s because it’s civil service, he has a dbs check so he needs to tell them.

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gypsytrampandthief · 03/04/2023 10:23

Shocking "advice" on this thread, please don't comment on the legal boards unless you know what you're talking about!

OP the only thing you can trust is the sentencing guidelines, they are online, easy to interpret and all this gleeful talk of sentences that are not even an option legally is absolute nonsense!

Oakbeam · 03/04/2023 10:24

A former colleague of mine was involved in a collision with a motorcyclist while speeding. I can’t remember the exact speed he was doing, but it was well over the limit. The motorcyclist died. My colleague got a fine, driving ban, points and a prison sentence.

He didn’t lose his job or face any disciplinary action by his employer.

EmilyGilmoresSass · 03/04/2023 10:24

Kwbe · 31/03/2023 09:49

I’m not sure to be perfectly honest, I posted more about the relationship side of it in the relationship board, someone there suggested I post here for legal advice stuff.

You're not sure? I can't believe you'd even consider staying with someone who put your child's life at such risk in a reckless manner for absolutely no reason.