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Missed Jury Duty

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cherryberry90 · 21/01/2023 21:50

As the subject explains

Was out earlier shopping, and came home and eldest daughter mentioned that a couple of officers were at my flat, basically for a missed appearance at Jury Duty

Do not wanna make things any worse than what they are now, scary thought what to do next

Any advice that would be helpful?

OP posts:
userxx · 22/01/2023 10:13

Plbrookes · 22/01/2023 10:12

Shocking that some people are encouraging OP to lie to get out of a problem they caused by their own lack of responsibility.

And mental health illness, don't forget that bit.

Butchyrestingface · 22/01/2023 10:22

LaurieFairyCake · 21/01/2023 22:48

Huh?

They don't send the summons out recorded delivery so loads of people won't have got them due to strikes/moving/living in flats where the post isn't secure so I don't understand at all that the police turned up Confused

I'm surprised the police turned up too.

I attend courts frequently due to the nature of my job and am often present for jury selection. I can remember occasions where people cited to attend for jury selection haven't turned up. In one case, I was told roughly HALF of those cited to attend hadn't shown up.

When I asked the court officer whether those people could expect a knock at the front door tonight, I was told that the courts/police don't have capacity to chase non-attendees.

herewego9 · 22/01/2023 10:27

Amazed they turned up. I've ignored citations twice in my younger years and never heard a thing about it.

TooTiredToWork · 22/01/2023 10:28

You don’t turn up at court with a note from your GP excusing you - like it’s PE.
In the first instance you speak to the court and explain the issue. They may then write to your doctor for further information- but the decision lies with the court/judge

An awful lot of defendants and witnesses go to their GP to say that they can’t possibly attend - in every case they are told to contact the court

Im a doctor - not a GP but know an awful lot and this is a regular issue. The judge does not want an unsolicited note from a doctor

OhMaria2 · 22/01/2023 10:39

cleanitup · 22/01/2023 09:14

With poor mental health?

I ignored not just my credit cards but also all my store cards, catalogues (as they were back then), overdraft, loan repayments and even my mortgage.

Sorry cleanitup but didn't you know mental health has been reframed by the public to mean only non messy cute little anxiety and ocd memes, certainly nothing that could diabolical impact someone's life

Cocobutt · 22/01/2023 10:46

Did you confirm your attendance?

I had to confirm my attendance by a certain date.
I had to ask my employer and book time off before confirming my attendance.

Did you book time off work?

I wasn’t needed in the end unfortunately ☹️ but I’m struggling to see how it got this far without them contacting you beforehand.

cleanitup · 22/01/2023 10:50

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speakout · 22/01/2023 11:09

I have to agree- ignorance is no excuse.
My DD had a jury citation a few weeks ago, but her employer refused to allow time off to attend.

Hoppinggreen · 22/01/2023 11:12

herewego9 · 22/01/2023 10:27

Amazed they turned up. I've ignored citations twice in my younger years and never heard a thing about it.

When I got the letter I was away on holiday and it was just delivered as normal post so there was no proof it ever arrived. I did some research and found that if you didn’t reply at all you were unlikely to be chased - but if you appealed and it was rejected but you didn’t turn up you would probably be prosecuted.
I always wanted to do it and hope to one day but at the time our circumstances meant it was completely impossible and I wasn’t risking having an appeal turned down.

knittingaddict · 22/01/2023 11:18

Msgrieves · 21/01/2023 22:17

I'd like to do it, which means I will likely never be called. Hope you get it sorted, no idea if was so serious if didn't turn up.

I would love to be called for jury service. I was called once over 35 years ago, but it coincided with my first day in my first proper job and they let me off. Been waiting ever since and I don't even work, so would be very easy to do. Hey ho.

knittingaddict · 22/01/2023 11:23

Fuzziefelt · 21/01/2023 22:50

They should give people a choice. If you agree then don’t turn up fair enough that’s an offence but there should be a choice in the first place. Forcing someone to do anything is never going to get the best from them. People should be able to opt out of the whole thing if they want to

I don't think they should have a choice. Juror are needed. Lots of them. Given a choice many people wouldn't choose to do it, so they are made to as part of their civic duty.

OchreDandelion · 22/01/2023 11:25

IsItThough · 22/01/2023 00:49

@Verbena17 you are hopelessly optimistic - Adult Autism assessment in my area currently has a 4 year waiting list. That is once you are referred.

Even being on the assessment pathway would be some kind of evidence one could provide if summoned though.

knittingaddict · 22/01/2023 11:32

LorW · 21/01/2023 23:43

I’m interested in how it all works, do some people get sent away? Like for example if you got called in to a child murder case and had young children? I’d probably cry my eyes out right there in the courtroom.

When my husband did jury service there was a room full of potential jurors. Certain people were assigned to a particular trial (there were lots happening at the same time). You might get a quick, simple case or a murder trial. In my husband's case it was going equipped to burgle. Open and shut case lasting a few hours or a couple of days (can't remember now) and he was then dismissed from jury service. I think there's a chance that you do more than one trial, but not sure about that.

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BlackeyedSusan · 22/01/2023 11:47

Fuzziefelt · 21/01/2023 22:16

It’s not that easy. It’s near impossible on the nhs in my area and v v expensive privately plus I have nobody to give information about my childhood

You don't need sopmeone to give info about your childhood... though it ihelps to have someone that has known you for a long time to give information. (My dad was dead and my mum was in a care home cand could not remember stuff)

BlackeyedSusan · 22/01/2023 11:54

Deathbyfluffy · 21/01/2023 22:20

You don’t just get to decide you ‘don’t want to do it’, it’s your duty and autism isn’t a reason to get out of it.

I’m formally diagnosed with an ASD and I still did my duty with no issues - if you’re just slapping a label on yourself to skirt your responsibility it won’t work.

If you genuinely believe you’re unfit to do it you’ll need a GP to agree, but to be honest I just get the impression you don’t fancy it (which isn’t how it works, you have to do it regardless)

I didn't need a GP to agree. I filled in the form and was excused... Though I may be called again.

Everybodies autism is different. just because you can with your autism does not mean that another autistic person could. Some have more difficulties with auditory processing, or sensory input or stimming, or other conditions.

Cocobutt · 22/01/2023 11:56

I don't think they should have a choice. Juror are needed. Lots of them. Given a choice many people wouldn't choose to do it, so they are made to as part of their civic duty.

But there are also people (like me) who are desperate to do it and I don’t think they’d ever be short of volunteers.

Although I guess the whole idea is for it to be random and your average Joe and not someone who wants to do it, which could be for the wrong reasons.

cakeorwine · 22/01/2023 12:01

Cocobutt · 22/01/2023 11:56

I don't think they should have a choice. Juror are needed. Lots of them. Given a choice many people wouldn't choose to do it, so they are made to as part of their civic duty.

But there are also people (like me) who are desperate to do it and I don’t think they’d ever be short of volunteers.

Although I guess the whole idea is for it to be random and your average Joe and not someone who wants to do it, which could be for the wrong reasons.

Having people from a range of backgrounds could provide valuable input in the jury room and a different perspective.

Imagine a jury full of Mumsnetters Grin

Ponderingtosk · 22/01/2023 12:04

I hope OP you get it all sorted ok and that you are ok ongoing 💐

my own experience of not being able to do Jury Duty when I had no childcare and was struggling to work was I offered to do it in the school holidays but by the actual day of court I’d not heard back so I rang the court and was told not to worry and I’d be called some other time. Never heard again, quite a relief really as my mum did one and she was a bit traumatised by it (wasn’t able to talk to us about it ). That was about twenty years ago. I did spend the whole day worrying someone would turn up and drag me off somewhere.

Cocobutt · 22/01/2023 12:10

Imagine a jury full of Mumsnetters

🤣🤣🤣

cleanitup · 22/01/2023 12:16

@Plbrookes

Not as shocking as your stupidity and fecklessness.

Can you explain?

Plbrookes · 22/01/2023 12:28

cleanitup · 22/01/2023 12:16

@Plbrookes

Not as shocking as your stupidity and fecklessness.

Can you explain?

Yes. You insult people and you can expect the same back.

cleanitup · 22/01/2023 12:30

Yes. You insult people and you can expect the same back.

I haven't insulted anyone?

OMG12 · 22/01/2023 12:55

OhMaria2 · 22/01/2023 10:39

Sorry cleanitup but didn't you know mental health has been reframed by the public to mean only non messy cute little anxiety and ocd memes, certainly nothing that could diabolical impact someone's life

I think this is largely the fault of people who decide ordinary, everyday feelings and emotions now mean mental health problems. People self diagnosing all manner of things. Struggle with change seems to lead to self diagnosing autism. Feeling. Bit sad=depression etc etc.

Verbena17 · 22/01/2023 13:28

Hoppinggreen · 22/01/2023 09:16

You may well be but unfortunately without an official diagnosis from a medical professional it will be very hard to do/not do things due to your autism.
For obvious reasons an official body (such as The Police, Courts etc) probably can’t just make allowances for you without a medical diagnosis on your records

You do not need a medical note to be exempt from jury service.

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