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Brief summary of the lives of the suspected bombers

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Twiglett · 15/07/2005 10:40

here on BBC news

they sound so shockingly normal

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Janh · 16/07/2005 20:22

The one on the bus was the 19-yr-old Jamaican who they think was the organiser of the group; they think he was supposed to get his bomb onto the Northern Line but it was closed, which is why he was on the bus - maybe if he was the leader he had intended to leave his and leg it?

Janh · 16/07/2005 20:36

Oh no, wrong again, that was the 18-yr-old - the Jamaican one was Kings Cross. So much for that theory.

But then why did the bus one go off at a different time? That's really very peculiar.

HappyMumof2 · 16/07/2005 20:41

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fishfinger · 16/07/2005 20:44

sorry no sympathy there

HappyMumof2 · 16/07/2005 20:46

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Janh · 16/07/2005 20:52

Just found this in the Indie:

The mystery of the bus bomber's 'missing hour'

The suicide bus bomber went "missing" for an hour and 21 minutes before he detonated his explosive, killing a total of 13 people.

Anti-terrorist officers are appealing to the public for help in finding out where Hasib Hussain, 18, travelled and who he possibly met in the minutes leading up to his suicide attack.

Film from surveillance cameras have tracked the teenager leaving King's Cross station at 8.26am on Thursday, but there is no trace of him until he set off his bomb on the No 30 bus in Tavistock Square to the west at 9.47am.

Detectives are baffled as to why the young killer did not set off the bomb along with his fellow terrorists on Tube trains at 8.50am. Instead he waited nearly another hour.

It has been widely reported that the most likely reason was that Hussain was meant to travel north on the Northern line - with the other three heading south, east, and west - but was unable to complete this journey because the line was closed. However, Transport for London said yesterday that, although the Northern line had severe delays, it was working up to the time of the blasts. The bomber could also have travelled north on the Piccadilly line or the Victoria, but chose to go above ground. He probably walked around for several minutes before boarding the bus.

He may have lost his nerve, it could have been part of a plan, or he may have met up with a fellow terrorist or contact while in and around King's Cross.

Detectives have now appealed to the 80-odd people on the No 30 bus involved in the blast to contact them in case they remember seeing him getting on. Police released images from CCTV footage yesterday showing Hussain at Luton station at 7.20am after driving from Leeds.Deputy Assistant Commissioner Peter Clarke, head of the anti-terrorist branch, said: "We need to establish his movements up until 9.47am and up until the explosion occurred in Tavistock Square. Did you see this man at King's Cross? Was he alone or with others? Do you know the route he took from the station? Did you see him get on to a No 30 bus? And if you did, where and when was that?"

It is unclear where exactly Hussain boarded the bus, which started its journey at Marble Arch at 9am. By 9.30am it was in Euston Road near the junction with Gower Street, heading east. The closure of King's Cross station on the route ahead, because of the attacks on the Underground, meant that the bus had to be diverted from its normal route, to travel south into Woburn Place and Tavistock Square.

hunkermunker · 16/07/2005 22:40

I'm surmising, FF.

Also think that as they had return tickets to Luton and had paid their parking that they thought they were leaving.

Didn't they find a fifth rucksack of explosives in the car at Luton? Wondering if the mastermind said to the others he was going to blow up Luton airport, waved them off (whilst holding the rucksack he had no intention of using), then skedaddled out of the country, no doubt laughing.

Again, all supposition.

hunkermunker · 16/07/2005 22:42

I also wonder if the bus bomber thought he'd blow up the bus outside King's Cross, and so "get" people coming out of the station after the Tube closed. But the delays on the roads meant this was impossible - I am sure the bus bomb wasn't meant to go off where it did though.

morocco · 16/07/2005 23:14

maybe a return ticket is cheaper than a single and they were thrifty bombers?

I cannot believe that they left behind pregnant wives and young children - that really shocked me. I expected them to be young 20's maybe, single guys for sure, not this normal.

Janh · 16/07/2005 23:23

The single thing that got to me the most was "he is sound as a pound" from The Guardian last week.

How British can you get?

HappyMumof2 · 17/07/2005 08:49

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hunkermunker · 17/07/2005 10:42

Morocco, they paid for their parking too.

I was thinking - I think that they had some control over the bomb, perhaps. I know if I was going on this kind of mission and expecting to come out of it, I'd want to know I could postpone the explosion for an hour or so.

Eugenious · 17/07/2005 11:27

Having read a couple of articles on the bombings recently what seems to come through is that Muslims (I wouldn't like to say all cos I don't really know) have no concept of 'Nation' or of loyalty to their country - their religion is first and foremost - and therein lies the problem.

hunkermunker · 17/07/2005 11:33

But these weren't Muslims. They may have thought they were...therein lies the problem, I think!

Eugenious · 17/07/2005 11:45

what do you mean 'they thought they were?'

There are still radical clerics in this country willing to call them martyrs

hunkermunker · 17/07/2005 11:47

They were terrorists. Not religious people. Those who preach hatred cannot be considered religious in the true sense of the word.

Eugenious · 17/07/2005 11:57

I agree with you but somehow I don't think they would!

hunkermunker · 17/07/2005 19:32

I think that some people can do this kind of thing, some can't, whatever they tell themselves (or are told). Just because it happens to be Islam that is being used in so many of these atrocities recently doesn't make that religion bad, it makes the people who will use it bad.

People kill for all sorts of reasons - the one thing they all have in common is that there is something that they can tell themselves is an important enough reason to kill. For me, it would be somebody intent on harming my family - that is just about the only scenario I can think of that would provoke me enough to kill - but I don't think I'm alone in that. And I mean kill the immediate threat, not go and kill lots of random other people!

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