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really really scared... the bombers were on dh's train

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edam · 12/07/2005 21:54

The London bombers caught a Thameslink train from Luton. Police have given the time it arrived in London ? that was dh's train. He got on just a couple of stops later. And if I hadn't jacked in my job I would have been on it too. Terrifying. OMG if the explosive had gone off prematurely, what would have become of ds? Really shaken by this
Have already posted on the first arrest thread but so very shaken felt compelled to start my own thread. Dh is on the phone to the police now (they've asked anyone on the train to contact them).

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jobrown · 12/07/2005 23:55

but edam and dp are hardly survivors as you put it. Some people love to dramatise their lives and have to make sensational statments such as 'really really scared'. I mean!

handlemecarefully · 12/07/2005 23:59

jobrown - you're rumbled. I've just done a search on your name and as far as I can see you haven't posted before today (apols if I am wrong, not that great at searching the archives etc)...and on the posts you have written today, let's just say that you have revelled in being forthright...or shall we say even provocative?

...and your name is strangely reminiscent of a not particularly savoury comedian

handlemecarefully · 13/07/2005 00:00

now are you the genuine article? ...or a regular mumsnetter having a bit of sport?

jobrown · 13/07/2005 00:02

Oh hear we go..... just because I've never posted before, my comments must be 'provocative'. I've seen this time and time again on mumsnet, someone expresses an opinion which you don't have to agree with, so I must be a troll.

I stand by my opinions thankyou very much, which in this particular instance is that some people have to be 'involved' in drama in some way or another, and this thread just smacks of that to me.
IMHO

Janh · 13/07/2005 00:03

Well you've made your point, thanks, jobrown.

handlemecarefully · 13/07/2005 00:04

Hey, I'll leave everyone else to make their own minds up. They can do a search and look at your contributions themselves, complete with the 'fgs', smileys and wtf's

jobrown · 13/07/2005 00:04

Yes, and if I want to make another point on another thread, I shall do so.

Or do I have to get permission first?

lilybubble · 13/07/2005 00:06

It is a bit of an extreme reaction. Surely these boards are for support and reassurance.... that's certainly what the original poster was after when she posted, so if you can't do that perhaps it's better not to post at all? It does look a little odd if you've never posted before and suddenly start with very forthright opinions - and that's just IMHO....

handlemecarefully · 13/07/2005 00:07

lilybubble - and this isn't the only thread like that

jobrown - please do keep posting. Now that I've got you pegged I am finding you quite amusing...

lilybubble · 13/07/2005 00:09

hmc - yes, I just looked too. Thanks for that...

edam, if you are still reading, I hope you're okay. Well done to your dh for helping the police, isn't that great!

edam · 13/07/2005 04:23

Well gee thanks Jobrown, remind me to kick you when you are down sometime. I'm sitting here at 4am because I can't sleep but hey, as long as you feel smug that's OK. Sheesh, why do air passengers make a fuss when their planes are in a near miss - just being self-indulgent, obviously, in your book.

I'm not usuallly someone to over-dramatise myself - I lived through the IRA bombing campaign in London. Two bombs in particular were very close to me and I never made a big thing of it - had that fatalistic 'what can you do about it' Londoner approach. And of course, I'm not directly involved with this as the families of the victims are. But I couldn't think of a way of wording that in my original post without sounding patronising - was too shocked, maybe.

Has no-one you love ever had a narrow escape? Walked away from a serious car crash with no injuries? (Actually dh did once - crash at speed in the rain in rush hour on the M1 and now I think about it my emotions were pretty heightened then).

I'm not asking for sympathy. And no-one asked you to respond to this thread if you didn't like it. I just needed/wanted to share my sense of shock. In what is, usually, for me, a safe place, full of people I 'know' to some extent.

Dh and I are very, very lucky. What's distressing me are two things.

  1. Personal - the idea that the bombers were a. on his train and b. in the next carriage. All that high explosive was within feet of him and could have gone off prematurely. Wouldn't that trouble you?

  2. Impersonal - that the bombers were delayed on dh's train. If they had arrived in London on time the bombs would have gone off 20 minutes earlier. There are hundreds of dead and injured who would have escaped had it gone to plan. And hundreds of people alive who might have been dead. That's a terrible thought.

As I said, this was already uncomfortably close to home, with one of the explosions outside a regular place of work of mine - I had to wait, alongside thousands of other people, to find out if friends and colleagues were OK. People I work with have been on the news, talking about how they tried to help people.

Let's hope if you or your loved ones ever have a very close shave, and you are quite naturally shocked by it, you find a little more understanding than you've shown here tonight/this morning.

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Harriett · 13/07/2005 05:51

Hi edam,
well I hope you got to sleep eventually.
Just wanted to say that 11 years ago I was in a fatal car crash that killed one of my friends and seriously injured the rest of them- I was hardly touched. I still think 'what if' even when people said that it was stupid to feel like that. IMO it has made me a stronger person who has always lived for the moment and enjoyed life and is thankful for all the good stuff that has happened over the years. what doesn't kill us etc etc...
I am only awake because I thought I was in labour just now but it's another false alarm... now I'm not very thankful for that I have to admit...

edam · 13/07/2005 06:30

Hi Harriet sorry you got a false alarm - and hope you have as easy a labour as possible.

Got back to sleep but ds woke at 5.30 arrgghh. Actually I didn't mind - just appreciated the chance to give him lots of cuddles. I warned him not to wake up daddy and he tiptoed into our room with his finger on his lips saying 'shush' very quietly, bless him.

You sound very together about what must have been a terrible experience. I've just realised, thinking back to dh's crash, that I kind of forgot to be grateful for his survival - at the time I was, of course, but it faded as we got on with everyday life. And now I'm back to thinking there but for the grace of God... but it seems wrong to even think that when lots of other poor souls weren't as lucky.

Will no doubt be very grouchy due to lack of sleep/pressing work deadline later today... must try very hard not to post anything when in a bad mood!

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Harriett · 13/07/2005 12:00

Hi. glad you're feeling a bit better- I have just woken up after my broken night of hoping to go into labour (due tomorrow!) keeping my fingers crossed things will start happening today.
Hope things get back to normal for you soon, not that we get a choice in these things with jobs and kids and things!

northerner · 13/07/2005 13:47

OMG Edam just seen this thread, FWIW I totally understand how you feel. I'd feel exactly the same if it were my dh. It's only natural.

fishfinger · 13/07/2005 13:48

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Weatherwax · 13/07/2005 14:07

Edam Im glad you are feeling better from an understandable concern. I hope you dont mind me repeating something you said yesterday which I thought was fairly important:-

"VERY IMPORTANT if anyone reading this was also on Thameslink last Thurs before the bombs, and was delayed, can you let the anti-terrorist hotline know? BBC Online gave out the number, don't have it to hand any more, sorry. But police told dh they don't have full records of the journey, because it didn't run to timetable. And they would like them"

It sounds as if we all need to report things that make us concrned

northerner · 13/07/2005 14:48

Have just heard that The Russell Hotel, Russell Square is being evacuated.

edam · 13/07/2005 17:46

someone else has probably already posted this, but just in case, go to the brilliant site here for some really positive thoughts.

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sparklymieow · 13/07/2005 17:47

we're not afraid

edam · 13/07/2005 19:15

great minds, sparklymeiow

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Janh · 13/07/2005 21:38

we're not afraid - 3rd time lucky?

Janh · 13/07/2005 21:39

yay!

edam · 13/07/2005 22:16

cheers Jan - ROFL how pathetic was that? sheesh... excuse is I've had 3 1/2 hours sleep in the last 24 and MUST GO TO BED. Now.

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Janh · 13/07/2005 22:18

Well I hope you actually have a good night's sleep tonight - think positive - think about nice things