What a bunch of nobs, sorry I mean *s*nobs...

[AnarchyAunt]

Residents want compensation in case they have to live near poor people

[heart bleeds]

It won't be miss selling as now days developers only get permission for housing estate by including a percentage of social housing.

Lots of HA people are lovely and look after their homes.
The home next door to my parents is HA and the very first day the new familly moved in with their two children (then aged 4 and 5yrs old) she swore at the kids non-stop, screaming at the top of her voice.
Does Kareoke all night up until 2am and now her son is 15yrs old and is the 'gang leader' of the local yobs.
But you can't say anything as their 'friends' will sort out anyone who complains
And this is in an area where council housing was turned into private housing.
Almost like going back to square one.

Reece, Kimberley and Darren are council estate names.

runs

It's Netherton in Dudley, not bleeding Mayfair fgs. The whole area is a dump.

Oh my god.

This reminds me of the resident's association of the new development I live in. I am continually shocked at their disgruntlement and complaints of "council estate feel devaluing their properties" attitude.

What I don't really understand is this obsession with the value of properties alredy owned, surely if you move somewhere new you actually want to live there? In which case what does it matter if the value of the house fluctuates a little?

Surely buying a house is buying somewhere to live with your family, not just buying an investment?

I don't get it.

I'm on the fence on this one.

Because;

If the developer had sold most of the houses then found that no-one was buying any more, should he sell some to a housing association, or should he leave them empty and boarded up because no one can sell their home/get a mortgage etc ie do whatever an individual buyer would normally do to get a house.

Think I'd rather have some ha people than boarded up houses on my street.

Also, a lot of new developments now have to allocate a certain proportion of their properties to housing assocs etc, maybe the developer knew all along and just never said.

I think its up to the developer to sell to whoever wants to buy.

I lived in a little housing association flat some years ago - it got me out of a bedsit and the block of flats was all occupied by single working people. Not scum. But come to think of it the locals on the estate all went round with a petition...

the first house I bought was a terraced 2 bed in a leafy Bucks village - the HA bought the maisonettes that joined my house and the first few people to live there were lovely! then... along came the neighbour from hell sadly - he had about 20 run down old american cars in various states of disrepair that he parked along the road, they used to be up all night rowing, getting drunk, rowing more and the outside drain was always full of spaghetti and other food stuffs that they never unblocked. when we came to sell our house we were stuffed!! eventually we had to sell it for half of what it was worth and the only person who'd touch it was the housing association.
I think my main gripe was that we tried to communicate with our neighbours and were offered mediation but they never turned up. the man abused (verbally but threatened physically) my hubby whilst he held our then 4 weeks old daughter.

ultimately there are good and bad in all of us whether we are HA or private owners BUT if I heard that HA were buying homes in my current road I'd be petrified after that last experience!!

Flame on if you like... For me, it really isn't about a class snobbery (grew up in council housing and children go to a very good school in a not at all afluent area).

We recently moved into a new private developement which included social housing but only at the far end of the site (don't want them watching what we're having for dinner ). Right now there are a large number of appartments/flats stood empty opposite our new house. Builders are doing their best to sell them but just not managing to shift them.

Worry 1: They sell them to HA and price does drop on all the site (HA would then be throughout the site) and, like it or not, there really is a price impact. We really couldn't afford this as fixed rate mortgage ends, we try to re-mortgage with a new lender to benefit from the new lower rates and negative equity will not allow this.

Worry 2: We already have the not-so-nice neighbour and they bought their house alongside ours. Bad neighbours is not exclusive to the poorer social groups.

the ha houses in our area are not looked after. everyone else makes sure their front gardens are weeded and free of rubbish. not so, these houses.

See, I come at this from the perspective of someone who has actually slept out rough for nearly a year when I was 17, and faced homelessness with my 6yo DD earlier this year after our private landlady evicted us when we complained about dangerous levels of disrepair.

I don't think people realise how lucky they are to be in a position to own their own home. So there are poor people next door - so what? I am frankly ashamed of a society that values homes less if they are near to social housing. A safe home is a safe home.

Riven {waves hi}, for me it really isn't about snobbery, as I said earler, bad neighbours come from all backgrounds. It is just a simple matter of economics / personal finance. If a potential lender sees me apply to remortgage my home, at some ficticous point in the future, they then send a valuer out to assess the current market value. Now, admittedly, a few grand short of the price we paid only a short time ago due to Government balls ups policy. If the valuer were then to find that HA had also now been added to the development & consult local estate agents, they would for sure decrease the value further and put me in a position where I would be unable to remortgage for the value I paid. Leaving me right in sh1t street in it personally and possibly in a vast amount (for me) of negative equity - which I really couldn't afford.

I live in a HA house that is on a new build estate. There are quite a few of us HA tenants mixed in with privately owned and a few private tenants. The amount of snobbery I have encoutered from the property owners is bloody unbelievable. It makes me want to play loud music all bloody night just so they actually do have something to moan about. (Of course I wouldn't, would wake up my 6 year old and 2 year old dds).

Our housing officer has told me that she has numerous complaints from these owners about a family on our estate who play loud music all the time, scream and shout at their kids etc. Of course say the owners these must be HA tenants. Well actually no they're not they are private renters who I have the terrible misfortune to live next door too.

Not all HA tenants are scallys and chavs. We are actually only HA tenants by default. Our previous house was being demolished by the council and they had to offer us alternative accomodation.

I thought the law stipulates that any new build estates have to give 10% over to social housing anyway?

I'm going to be an even bigger snob now - those houses the residents think are so grand are 'orrible. Looks like the Brookside Estate to me.

You can pay a fee to buy you out of social housing obligations. Councils supposed to use the money to build social housing if their own but of course rarely do.

Exactly Kerry, nobody would.

It's about mis-selling, not snobbery.

This issue is going to become huge imo because so many building projects were under way or already lying empty when the economy crashed, and developers will have to massively scale down their aspirations for selling.

Equally concerning is having student accommodation next door. Students are normally decent types but they are almost always noisy to live next door to - I say this as an (ashamed!) ex student and as a homeowner.

It makes sense to fill empty flats with people who need housing, but I'm glad it's not next door to me. The council housing estates I know of in our city are all no-go areas after dark, and crime hotspots. If you had the money you wouldn't live there.