donated organs going to foreigners

[southeastastra]

is this really true? read an article today

It isnt the mail Wonderstuff, although they ran a similar story a few weeks ago and the times have run something similar.

I would only want my organs going to people who share my political views. And no ugly recipients. And as for the sort of women who feed tehir children McDonalds, well they can die before I'd let them have one of my kidneys. There.

I have an issue with people paying for organ donation - regardless of them being from the UK, or elsewhere.

Organ donation should be purely on needs basis IMO, and not based on who has paid for it, regardless of where they reside.

Whilst I don;t actually have a problem with private medical care in general, I do not think organ donation s something that should be involved with how much moeney the recipient has/has not.

I dont want mine going to 4X4 drivers .

nkf

Agree Hula

i just don't want to see the nhs being used in this way. is that so bad?

anyone can have mine!

I met a lovely man once who who told me the story of how his son who died in a RTA had saved the life of 10 people and how they all write to him with such gratitude. Was a heartbreaker.

Actually Hula, I agree with you - greatest need regardless of who can pay or which country they come from

I am not sure if I would use the word bad, it is perhaps a sad viewpoint to hold. But each to their own.

Hula- well said!

A family member has been on that truly horrendous waiting list and can honestly say we can now joke about it quite rudely that he has now got a WORKING German kidney inside him and is able to see his DC grow up. Works both ways.....

lol @ flying in to take 'our' organs.

Forgive my ignorance, but I always thought organs had a very limited 'life' expectancy so to speak, I always thought that peoples kidneys/heart/eyeballs whatever, couldn't be put in the freezer and defrosted to insert into a person at a random later date....

Sooo having not read the article, and only skimmed the posts, I would have thought the foreigners with parts of englishmen in them forever would be few, I would have also thought that someone in need of an organ might not be in any condition to make a long haul flight safely.....

PMSL nkf

But does the article actual say that people who pay are getting prioity? I only scanned the article, but I thought that the ethics of transplants were pretty important, I thought that the lists were prioritsed by need and they went down the list to the first priotity match? Paying for organs not acceptable but I didn't think you could.

I think the mail article talks about "foriegners" paying £75K for organs,

do the foreigners pay for the transplants then?

Haven't read the article but can imagine the buttons it presses.
A question for those of you who are outraged about a non-Brit getting part of a Brit's body: would you refuse a non-Brit's organ on the grounds that it should go to someone of the same nationality of the deceased? Because that's your logic, isn't it?

sea. With elective surgery costs are usually reclaimed, AFAIK.

I think the E11 form covers emergency treatment for EU nationals but not elective stuff.

I imagine, that since it said that non-EU citizens only get organs when no suitable EU person on list the £75k is the cost to the NHS of the treatment, not a price people pay to get to the top of the list. I may be wrong, but that would make more sense to me.

I'm not allowed to give blood in NZ because of CJD. Nobody who has lived in the UK for more than 6 months is.

If I need a blood transfusion I will have to rely on a NZer not caring that their lovely clean blood is going to a person who carries a UK passport.

i just think most british people sign up for the transplant service with the belief that their organs would go to nhs patients on the waiting list. if this is not the case we should be informed. is that really too much to ask?

As long as it's not a case of the NHS saying "we have two matches. A single mum on benefits or some guy willing to pay $1000s for it, but we have the budget to think about"

It probably isn't like that, but I'm afraid if it were possible/legal some hospital managers would think that way

Probably wonderstuff, have not read the mail article as I am supposed to resting and avoiding stress, the Mail makes my blood boil.

Has this put you off being a donor SEA? That would be very sad.

I am a registered donor because I want to be able to help those in need. Nationality has never ever entered my head and now it has been raised I do not feel any differently.

Why would I want to save a spanish life and less that a British one?

hey i just read the papers