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Obama wins: How do you explain this day to your children?

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morningpaper · 05/11/2008 07:12

How are you explaining the news to your children?

Do you mention race and if so, how?

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wasabipeanut · 05/11/2008 16:25

It is all very exciting. I think I said on another thread that I feel like something historical has happenned and feel very happy to be around for it as all the historical firsts seemed to happen long before I was born (1973 seeing as you ask).

It is an issue and I agree that where appropiate it should be discussed. I can't actually decide what is more significant - Obama himself and his achievement or the people that voted for him.

Lol at stories of various posters lo's beign happily oblivious and wanting to watch their normal programs!

And I think peanut butter cookie baking is a superb way to celebrate.

Rhubarb · 05/11/2008 16:26

I don't know about that, I think it has been an issue. They've been banging on and on over here about the fact that he's black and how having a white Grandmother might help over in America and so on. In fact, in the press coverage I've seen, his skin colour has come before any of his policies.

It's a great day for America that they've been able to see the man and the policies before his colour.

When do you think that will happen in this country? We're so hellbent on being pc, yet how many black MPs do you know?

Mercy · 05/11/2008 16:30

Our local MP is black!

pinkmagic1 · 05/11/2008 17:17

I didn't know his middle name was Hussein. Is he Muslim? I thought he might be as his first name is similar to an Arab word meaning 'Blessing'.

MannyMoeAndJack · 05/11/2008 17:34

I agree that race shouldn't be an issue in an ideal world but progress is a step-by-step process - it's not easy to skip a step. So, for example, if Obama's victory had been announced without any reference to his skin colour/ethnicity, then it would've sat there like the proverbial elephant in the room. The fact that Obama's victory is an historical first (and just how many 'firsts' are really left in the world on this kind of scale?) means that his race/skin colour has had to be/got to be discussed. In the future, when there have been more black presidents as well as Native American, Latin-American, Chinese-American (etc) presidents, then I'm guessing that a person's race will not be the issue that it is today.

I think Obama is a Christian.

Fennel · 05/11/2008 17:36

His father was born into a Moslem family, so was his stepfather. He's not Moslem.

Barack means peace, doesn't it?

(have been googling. he has an impressive feminist anthropologist mother too)

reikimarie · 05/11/2008 17:40

My son is only 3 and a half so no point trying to explain yeet but because he has dual heritage i.e. his father is Jamaican, I have bought the Guardian and Independent papers today to keep for posterity and show to him when he is big enough!

snigger · 05/11/2008 17:42

I was unsure how to wade in this morning - we were watching the news over breakfast and she exclaimed

"I'm so glad the young guy won, not the really really old one, he could die or something."

Replacing one prejudice for another, thereby lies my parental legacy

snigger · 05/11/2008 17:43

'she' being DD1, not the cat's mother

christywhisty · 05/11/2008 17:46

I don't think anyone should be celebrating that a black man one, they should be celebrating that the right man one, if that is the case, we have yet to see.
Voting for someone for his colour is just as bad as voting against someone for their colour.
Didn't bother telling my children, race or colour has never been an issue for them, they never don't see people for their colour they see them for themselves. creating a fuss will just make an issue of something that doesn't exist for them

werewabbit · 05/11/2008 18:03

I live in a predominantly black country and i have never intentionally mentioned race to ds1 4yo (we're white), and describing people has always been in terms of their size or shirt colour.

Yesterday I said to him that I was excited that America, one of the most powerful countries in the world, was going to have a new President, 'Man in Charge', and that he seemed to be a really nice man who we hoped would be better than the last one, who really liked fighting wars.

I think I lost him as soon as I put on that 'here's a learning moment' voice.

I know that he will become aware of race at some point but right now he sees no differences - however I look forward to answering the questions when they come.

ElfOnTheTopShelf · 05/11/2008 18:03

My dd is only three, she is far too young to understand anything on this topic.

What I want to be able to say to her when she is older is that Obama is the best President. I want him to do so well at everything and really make America a place to be proud of, with good honest and fair policies.

When he finishes his term, I want to be able to say to her "it is sad, because he does such a wonderful job".

disneystar · 05/11/2008 18:35

christy very valid point end of thread really

bananabrain · 05/11/2008 18:45

We just explained to ds1, 4.5, as simply as we could about Obama and why it's such a great thing that he has been elected. After telling him about how black people were treated so badly, and trying to use an analogy he would understand involving a black friend of his not being allowed sweets when he was, he said "If xxxx wasn't given any sweets I would share mine with her!" [proud mummy emoticon] although he did then say he wouldn't share his new garage!!
It IS great news.

Mercy · 05/11/2008 19:04

Christy, I know what you are getting at but it isn't as simple as that.

I'm quite taken aback that so many of you have children who do not notice or comment on skin colour difference.

LadyLaGore · 05/11/2008 19:06

"he has an impressive feminist anthropologist mother too"

i am impressed by this. it was clearly damn good parenting on the mothers part that won this election yesterday, yay for clever mums!

tortoiseshellWasMusicaYearsAgo · 05/11/2008 19:15

I explained it to my kids - and it is an issue about race, because it shows how much has changed in just 40 years - not that 'someone can become president, despite being black' but that we are now in a time where the US people can elect a person irrespective of their colour. That is why it's an issue imo.

Anyway, I told my kids - ds1 who is 7 very gratifyingly said 'you mean like when Nelson Mandela was released from prison and then became president in S Africa?' so I beamed in his political knowledge.

Dd (5) said 'I know, I know, we were told in assembly - the new president didn't like King James so he thought of a plot and dug lots of tunnels and then a man in black told King James, and the man had his head cut off and stuck on a stick to teach him not to do it again.' I said 'you're sure this is the new president you're talking about?' and she said 'yes, Mr Guy Fawkes...'

She has a way to go in the study of history and politics I feel...

LadyLaGore · 05/11/2008 19:20

re seeing race;
im from hackney, so grew up in v multicultural community. i saw that people had all sorts of heritages but it never occured to me for a second that that could be a negative thing. it wasnt that i didnt see colour/race, but that colour and race were never associated with relative worth or value. now thats a v lucky way to grow up imo. i was stunned at 14yo to hear the first overtly racist comment anyone ever said to me, as tho i would agree. gobsmacked that it went on. sadly, that is SO not the case for any child of any colour or skin colour other than 'white'. and thats not ok.
my dad is irish and i grew up feeling a strong sense of injustice at the treatment of ireland through history by Britain. in fact, i was pretty indignant and embarrased to appear to be from a country which has resoundingly shat on people across the world throughout history as we know it.

my dc and i now live in a little village in Hampshire. most people are 'white'. therefore they dont see so many people of any colour but they do know some, obv family members and friends in london, and a couple of kids at preschool and now school. they are all v fond of a little boy who happens to be multi racial, his mother is black and his father white. they, although they are 2, 4 and 5, have noticed his skin is darker, of course they have. they have asked why he is brown. i said skin was like other bits of your body, like hair and eyes in that it could be different colours, as people can be different sizes or have curly hair etc. what you look like gets handed down from your parents and lo, there was a lovely mixture of ways people could look.

i agree with filly; living in a bubble where its not an issue is not going to help create a world where it really isnt. and is not a luxury we can all afford. and our kids are more than capable of understanding what become complex issues for adults and, like someone said 'cut the crap'. thank goodness for that, i say

SoupDragon · 05/11/2008 19:55

Did chat with the SmallDragons abut this in the car as it came up on the radio and they'd talked about it as school. DS1 (9) said he didn't understand what all the fuss was about just because his skin is black as it's only a different colour, it doesn't make him different or anything. I could have hugged him.

SoupDragon · 05/11/2008 19:56

(I did explain how not everyone sees coloured skin that way and how different America used to be)

twentypence · 05/11/2008 19:58

I told ds that there was a new president and showed him a picture. He asked if Flat Stanley would have to go and meet him.

popsycal · 05/11/2008 20:03

i started talking to ds1 (6) and said 'you know how the person in charge of america is the president....' then he launchedinto a speech about how they had a new presidents today called 'owen bamma' and every one was very happy and he had two girls and was going to change the world. i asked if he had been told about it at school but no - he read the bbc news homepagee before going on the cbbc website on my laptop while i was making dinner

note to self: get a password

dh began to mention the race issue to him very vaguely and he was upset as he has an afro-caribbean aunty and mixed race cousins so we quickly got back to owen bamma and how he mifght 'change the world (beimng allowed 4 maesghmallows in hot chocolate on bonfire night is what ds1 would change....

ilovemydogandPresidentObama · 05/11/2008 20:29

popsy - that is soo sweet. Maybe he'll grow up color blind....

chisigirl · 05/11/2008 20:57

mabanana, you say that "Europe has always been far less racist than America".

I'm really surprised you believe that. Do you think it at all conceivable that in, say, France, a man with Obama's background would be elected President? I think not.

KerryMum · 05/11/2008 21:03

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