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Older celeb mums criticised

I think there is some truth to this, especially, "Women don't know how these celebrities conceived - it could have been through egg donation."

The risks of conceiving and giving birth tend to be brushed under the carpet a bit at the mo and waiting that long on purpose probably isn;t the wiset thing to do.

Figures released by the Office of National Statistics have revealed that record numbers of women in their 40s are getting pregnant. Conceptions among women in their 40s are rising faster than in any other age group, as fertility treatment makes it easier for them to start a family. In 2006, there were 25,400 pregnancies in women aged 40 or over - the highest on record. The figures show that across all ages, the pregnancy rate is up by three per cent but in women over 40 there has been a six per cent rise between 2005 and 2006. For every 1,000 women aged over 40, a dozen got pregnant in 2006.

lulu you might like this article

thanks i will take that to the next MSLC

im offsky!happy to chat (as always)

am never usually up this late, obviously, i should be as it is when all the interesting links appear !

Yes, the underweight in the true sense ( not I'm size 16 this is now average for UK women therefore any woman who is under size 16 is anorexic view point which often prevails)... cannot get pregnant. My brother works with anorexics - the proper kind who often die and they certainly can't get pregnant, that's true. My mother had two aunts (she had 52 first cousins and her grandmother had 17 children) who both started families over 40 in the 1920s or 30s as they married late. But it is obviously not as easy and girls need to know that when they plan their lives. My sister wanted children but not a man and had her boys by IVF by donor sperm at 37.

Good link SM. I don't think that article was contantious at all. Defing nature is exactly what is happening - it isn't saying it is wrong, just that there are natural risks. Some feminists object to the use of the word 'natural' but I think its a bit daft myself - it isn;t contentious in medical or scientific terms.

Sorry, I was a bit oversensitive last night, I think. Apologies, camilla.

I do get a bit fed up with all the 'Thin MUST equal unhealthy and exercising like a loon' stuff, though. Someone actually once asked me if I was bulimic after watching me eat a healthy plateful of roast beef etc.

So, erm, sorry I over-reacted. It's true that the quest for perfect thinness which results in people being much thinner than their natural weight is probably a very bad thing for their fertility. Mind you, I imagine being much fatter than your natural weight isn't great either from that point of view.

Many more people are fat than too think in the UK. Obesity is a huge problem. Excessive over eating is too which is an eating disorder which I don't think is given anything like enough consideration as you get for anorexia and bullimia.

no problem at all lucicle..

think that is true xenia, re overeating.

there is a study being done at the moment re pregnancy and obesity,(UKOSS) women with a BMI of 40 or more IIRC.

am overweight myself, not massively, but overweight, i got pregnant easily , but then the women in my family seem to be super fertile... i think family history might also have indications here

my plan was never to have children young, i was at law school when i met my DH , and i was going to have a glittering legal career. as it happened, i got married on my 23rd birthday and had DS 15 months later. and DD 5 weeks after my 30th birthday.

i am very glad in retrospect that that is how things worked out, i am glad that i am not now, at almost 33 looking for a life partner and worrying about missing the boat biologically speaking

i mean the Bewley article was contentious in that it was part of the (alleged) have it all women debate.Hotly debated at the time

But why should that have any impact on your career? I had my first child at 22 and carried on working. Many women do.

i wanted to be with my children as much as possible, xenia. simple really !