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Remember the case of the social workers illegally snatching a newborn baby from his mother?

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edam · 17/03/2008 10:39

Don't think I've seen any mention of this on MN. At least the poor girl has the chance to prove herself. Hope she FINALLY gets the support she needs - and was entitled to all along.

Unbelievable that it was sheer good luck that meant SS were held to account for their actions, though. Not only in breaking the law by snatching the baby but by failing to due their duty by the mother.

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Open justice in court reunites mother and baby

By Joshua Rozenberg
Last Updated: 1:14am GMT 13/03/2008

The case of the teenage mother whose baby son was wrongly taken away from her three hours after his birth is a truly terrifying tale.

A miscarriage of justice came to light on this occasion only through the happy coincidence of dedicated lawyers, a bold judge and an assiduous reporter.

But the case also revealed alarming failings by staff at Nottingham City Hospital and a much deeper level of unlawful behaviour by social workers at Nottingham City Council. It would be surprising if these failings were confined to Nottingham.

The case involves a baby born in January to a mother who turned 18 last summer.

Described as a "very vulnerable young adult", she has a history of self-harm as well as drug and alcohol abuse.

The woman, identified only by the initial G, had been taken into care by Nottingham City Council as a child.

Young people are not meant to be left stranded when they leave care at the age of 18, especially someone like G, whose "problems are vastly greater" than many others in her position.

Instead, the social services department is required to produce a "pathway plan" identifying the young person's needs and the financial, practical and other support that it is proposing to provide.

That includes a "personal adviser" who speaks up for the vulnerable young person in dealings with the local authority.

The adviser's duties were spelled out nearly three years ago, in a case brought by a 17-year-old boy against Caerphilly Council.

Giving judgment, Mr Justice Munby stressed that "a pathway plan must spell out who does what, where and when".

A plan had been prepared for G before she left the care of Nottingham City Council, but her lawyers believed it did not meet the standards laid down in the Caerphilly case. They decided to challenge the plan in the High Court.

G's application for judicial review was due to be heard by Mr Justice Munby on January 30.

A day earlier, though, G had unexpectedly gone into labour, giving birth to a healthy boy shortly after 2.00 am on the day of the hearing.

When the baby was three hours old, hospital staff removed him to a separate ward. They did so purely on the instructions of a social worker.

Less than six hours later, G's counsel told Mr Justice Munby that the baby had been taken from his mother without legal authority.

Nottingham had not applied for an interim care order or an emergency protection order. There was no risk to the child of immediate physical harm. So the judge ordered the medical staff to return the baby.

The hospital was notified ay 12.20 pm. Within 10 minutes, G and her son were reunited.

If G's application had come before a judge in the Family Division, it would have been heard in private. In theory, reporters could have asked the judge to sit in public, but it is unlikely that they would have known anything about the case.

However, G's application was made during an application for judicial review. It was therefore heard in the Administrative Court â?? which is open to the press and public.

Fortunately, a reporter from PA News, the national news agency, was sitting in Mr Justice Munby's court on the off-chance that something interesting might turn up.

The judge knew John Aston's face but not his name. Aston, he said, epitomised the court reporter described by Lord Denning in 1955. "He says nothing but writes a lot. He notes all that goes on and makes a fair and accurate report of itâ?¦ He is, I verily believe, the watchdog of justice."

This particular watchdog put out a story that Mr Justice Munby later praised as "fair, balanced and accurate".

It appeared prominently in the following day's newspapers. By the time the case came back before Mr Justice Munby on February 18, the publicity had worked wonders.

Social services had applied for a court order. A judge in Nottingham had agreed that the baby, now identified as K, should go into local authority foster care while social workers assessed G's ability to look after her son.

And the Court of Appeal had decided that Mr Justice Munby should consider whether to direct a further assessment.

That, in turn, led to a recommendation by Nottingham Social Services that G and K should be assessed at a specialist mother-and-baby unit in the South East, a recommendation approved by the judge. This will cost the local authority at least £63,500.

And what of G's pathway plan, the subject of her application for judicial review?

Nottingham had produced three successive revised plans in response to different stages in the legal process.

In court last month, the council maintained that its latest plan, dated February 6, was not deficient.

On being told by Mr Justice Munby that this argument was "quite untenable", Nottingham threw in the towel and conceded it had failed to comply with the law.

A social worker who had prepared the plan was also one of G's personal advisers, leaving the worker with a foot in both camps â?? something that the judge had specifically outlawed in the Caerphilly case.

"It is depressing to have to note this catalogue of failing," the judge said last week.

The case "exhibits serious failure by a major local authority to comply with its statutory duty and to heed relevant judicial authority".

Nottingham did not even suggest that this was an isolated failing, frankly admitting it was "usual for the personal adviser to have played a part on both sides of the fence".

And the decision to take K away from his mother? Even worse, in my view.

At the first hearing on January 30, Nottingham accepted it had no legal justification for this. But at the subsequent hearing, the council asserted that G knew of the plan and had not raised any objections, either before giving birth or immediately afterwards.

The argument that this amounted to consent was as divorced from legal substance as it was from the emotional and hormonal realities of the human condition, Mr Justice Munby said.

It had "the potential for the most pernicious consequences, not least because there are probably many mothers who believe, quite erroneously, that a local authority has power, without any court order, to do what the local authority did in this case".

Not that hospital staff acted any better, simply assuming "on the mere say-so of a social worker" that it was lawful to take the baby away.

The case shows the need for more training and guidance, both for midwives and for social workers.

It also shows the benefits of open justice at a time when court reporters being refused access to the written "skeleton" arguments on which they now depend.

As the judge said, it was "salutary" to think of what would have happened if the original application had been made in the Family Division.

And what of the young mother? Will G keep her son?

"She may find the regime at the mother-and-baby unit more challenging and demanding than she expects," Mr Justice Munby predicted.

But he hoped she would rise to the challenge. "Unless she can, the prospects must be bleak."

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bossybritches · 17/03/2008 20:59

Luminar- that is one of MY biggest bug-bears that the SW's who are quietly pluggung away doing a great jib are undermined becasue the shite ones are allowed to get away with it. If a few more were disciplined,offered training & sharpen up or ship out deadlines then maybe practice would improve.

FFS what ever happened to appraisals /performance reviews? Not the sort of number crunching that insists on targets but professional development, standards, advice on complaints etc as with other areas of the public sector?

PW another point- they need to be a bit more up on thelaw & also have customer relations /people management skills- or training for same.

Blueskythinker · 17/03/2008 21:17

To my eternal shame, I was present when a newborn baby (I mean only an hour old) was removed from a young girl on the say so of social workers. The girl had no idea this was going to happen, because social workers were concerned she may go into hiding if whe was forewarned. As police, we were there 'to prevent a breach of the peace'. Fortunately, we did not actually have to get involved, but I felt very unhappy about being complicit in this at the time. This was 10 years ago, and before the Human Rights Act. I would hope that if I faced this situation today, I would have the moral courage to refuse to be any part of it.

ruty · 18/03/2008 08:52

chilling.

edam · 18/03/2008 10:13

Bloody hell, Bluesky, that sounds awful. For the poor girl but also for you as a witness who was made complicit in the whole thing.

Sounds as if they were using you with the 'breach of the peace' excuse as a fig leaf because they couldn't be bothered to or were unsure that they would get a court order. Appalling. THEY were creating a situation where someone would be distressed, to say the least, and fully entitled to protest.

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PerkinWarbeck · 18/03/2008 10:29

edam - police being asked to attend would not mean that a court order was not present. it would mean only that police support was required.

I sometimes require police support at a mental health act assessment. this does not mean that i am not acting within my own legal powers; rather, it means that police are required for safety reasons.

edam · 18/03/2008 10:36

No, but a. they can't get a court order before the baby is born and to remove within an hour sounds very suspicious. And b. from Bluesky's description, sounds v. dodgy.

I think sectioning is quite different - as a MH SW you don't need a court order, as you say.

Tough job. And sometimes bizarre, I hear - spoke to one SW who went to section someone who jumped out of a second floor window and drove off in the doctor's Jag, leaving SW and doc locked in his flat!

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PerkinWarbeck · 18/03/2008 10:42

you are right re court order can't be made until a baby is born, but one can be obtained very quickly (I know we can get them super-fast when we require a warrant to enter someone's property). Sounds like a very sad case.

In some ways I think my powers are scarier - I don't need a court order to section someone for up to 6 months .

edam · 18/03/2008 11:34

I know, best not to think about it (and hope I never come across you in a professional capacity)!

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FranLyon · 18/03/2008 16:16

I'm really glad this has been reported so well. Where was it published, if you don't mind me asking Edam?

I wish G and her son all the very best if she is reading this.

UD - really pleased to hear that Miss W and Baby E are back together.

expatinscotland · 18/03/2008 16:20

END secrecy of family courts.

NOW.

Make them accountable to some body for their actions.

Open up the possibility of those who have been wronged to sue them in civil court.

FranLyon · 18/03/2008 16:24

"Open up the possibility of those who have been wronged to sue them in civil court."

Now there's a thought that will fester

edam · 18/03/2008 18:40

hey Fran, good to see you! It's from the Guardian, I think (if not, try The Times).

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themildmanneredbunny · 18/03/2008 18:41

so how's motherhood fran? how's molly? what's happening?

expatinscotland · 18/03/2008 18:42

Oh, yes, that'll go over like a lead balloon, Fran .

There is no real reason for the secrecy. Family courts are not secret in many other countries and there is no compromise of the child's identity.

Wonder what reason they give for it here (other than abducting peoples' children)?

FranLyon · 18/03/2008 20:04

Thanks Edam. I'll have a hunt.

Motherhood is wonderful, knackering, incredible, confusing, overwhelming and everything in between TMMB. I wouldn't change it for the world.

Molly is doing really well - she's a wee star. Still breastfeeding well, and she sleeps like an angel. Nothing much is happening now - we're just getting on with life and trying as much as possible to put the past behind us. Sweden have finished their investigations now and we're just waiting for the reports to be translated then that'll be the end of it.

Expat - I suspect anything having to do with me would go over like a lead balloon to be honest. I doubt somehow that I'm very popular with Hexham et al. Nonetheless - it's a thought which has raised a wry, if somewhat immature, smile.

edam · 18/03/2008 23:26

I'm waiting for the first child to sue. The first ones removed under the ridiculous MSbP witch-hunt are now reaching adulthood.

Of course, the authorities can rest easy in the knowledge that it might be far too painful for the victims to want to drag it up again. None of the Rochdale children have sued, AFAIK, despite the SWs' own video testimony proving they were perjurers.

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nappyaddict · 23/03/2008 15:32

please please please sign this petition.

SenoraPostrophe · 23/03/2008 15:58

I really don't think opening up the family courts is the answer to cases like this. they are private for a reason. and in this case the problem was that the social workers didn't have a court order at all wasn't it?

I know there are other cases involving expert witnesses which are also problematic, but a better solution would be more guidance for the use of expert witnesses (eg at least 2 in each case) and possibly also the use of panles of judges in the family courts rather than single judges.

This case though highlights the need for better ongoing training for social workers, which again requires money. they haven't really said why they were so keen to take the baby away rather than simply keeping a close eye on mother and baby, and I suspect the reason for that is also to do with resources.

SenoraPostrophe · 23/03/2008 15:59

...also for the reasons stated above I hope they don't sue. what would that acheive, other than making social workers scared to remove any child (as in the Victoria Climbie case)

bossybritches · 23/03/2008 16:26

Senora it night not achieve anything legally but it helps highlight the terrible state of the family courts and the secrecy and corruption that is hidden therein.

If no-one ever protested because they were scared they would achieve nothing, then the whole system of democracy falls down round its ears.

I for one do not want to be amongst those in 10-15 years time who says "I can't believe it went on how did we let such systems go on?"

To quote someone far cleverer than I-

" all it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing"

SenoraPostrophe · 24/03/2008 14:56

I didn't say that ending the secrecy wouldn't achieve anything legally though.

I meant ending the secrecy would be a)unlikely to stop any miscarriages of justice (I'm sorry - I can't agree that the courts are corrupt) and more importantly b)very dangerous, because most family cases do actually need to be private.

Even if we were to change the law so cases could be made public when one of the parties (who? the mother? what about divorce cases?) agreed, that would surely raise grave doubts about any case where the family quite reasonably didn't want their case to be made public wouldn't it?

Janni · 24/03/2008 15:05

The SWs were complete idiots to remove a baby without a court order, however concerned they were about the welfare of the baby.

Sadly, I'm not sure this is an 'all's well that ends well' case. I sincerely hope this very vulnerable mother will get the ONGOING support she needs.

Flubdub · 24/03/2008 15:11

By mycatsbreathsmellslikecatfood on Mon 17-Mar-08 10:43:21
i found the whole episode chilling.
but has there been any further info on a similar story from last summer - the girl in question had previously been under social services care for depression, but pronounced "fine" by her psychologist. but ss were all set to take her baby at birth, because they said she would definitely harm it. last i heard she was (obviously) trying to overturn their decision, but she still had a couple of months of pregancy to go. but i never heard if she won her case or not.

I was just going to ask what happened to her.

bossybritches · 24/03/2008 20:20

Senora you may choose to think the courts aren't corrupt (& please god the majority aren't) but there HAVE been cases of social workers and defence lawyers colluding to bring about a swift & favourable end to family law cases.

By ending secrecy in family courts then expert witness such as Southall & Meadows could be challenged by their peers & therefore miscarriages of justice could be prevented. What many of us can't understand is, if a criminal court decides either off it's own back or at the request of concerned parties, to put a ban on reporting of any personal details of a case why can't the same be said of the family courts? Why are they so different?

And why are we (Britain) only one of 2 e 3 countries in the civilised world who do this?

If professionals are keen to be seen as above reproach & with nothing to hide then why gag the families concerned from seeking outside help and second opinion?

SenoraPostrophe · 26/03/2008 19:25

really, bossybritches? what cases? I thought the family courts didn't have defence lawyers as such? depending on circs I wouldn't necessarily call that corruption anyway - corruption is offering favours / money to judges.

the thing is, meadows and southall both testified in normal, open court cases too, but it took years for those verdicts to be overturned even in the really high profile cases. most cases that come before the family courts would be low profile, and opening the courts up simply wouldn't help in the vast majority of cases. Plus as I say, there are advantages in anonymity.

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