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Southall struck off

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ElenyaTuesday · 04/12/2007 16:55

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bossybritches · 11/12/2007 21:11

I'm sure-she says struggling to see his side of things & failing- in the CP business you MUST get so suspicious of every bad parenting situation it makes you very cynical & judgemental. Bit like a hard-bitten cop who alway sees the criminal in everyone. However you CANNOT go around treating everyone the same "just in case"!

Ozymandius · 12/12/2007 10:24

For more information on Penny Mellors 'abduction', read this - it's so awful.
Woman is told to take her ten year old autistic son to Southall. He also has cerebral palsy and other health conditions. During the conversation she mentions in passing that her grandmother lost three children to cystic fibrosis. Southall then immediately 'diagnoses' the woman with MSBP, and also accuses the grandmother of murdering her three children! The boy is taken into care, then social services come after the nine-year old daughter. The judge in the Mellor case says this was because the mother had a 'suffocating love' for her children.
I think she should have been given a medal, not a prison sentence.
Read more here:64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:Oxr2neSnW_AJ:scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/index.cfm%3Fid%3D126682004+ penny+mellor+conspiracy+to+abduct+a+child&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=uk

Ozymandius · 12/12/2007 10:38

More here - horrible stuff - it wasn't the woman's grandmother who lost the babies, it was the women's mother
www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-9473403-details/This+man+devastated+my+family/article.do

bossybritches · 12/12/2007 11:13

Dea God I've been reading this with tears running down my face-this could be any of us with a child needing help going to a paediatrician. I am so

I can't imagine what they must have gone through as a family losing their children in that way. For the police to be told they were looking for murderers when they were on the run is just wicked. Also on a practical level a HUGE waste of police resources.

What have Southall's supporters got to say about this story then? No doubt we will have the old chestnut "it's all within the secrecy of the Family Courts & we can't comment"

Ok so if he & Meadows ARE part of a conspiracy then why aren't their supporters lobbying hard for open courts as well then we could all see what a wonderful job they are doing?

edam · 12/12/2007 13:31

Good grief - the Penny Mellor case. If I were her, I'd be complaining to the Times about the way her involvement in this case was described.

edam · 12/12/2007 13:31

And it just shows that David Southall is as black as he is painted by the parents he has wronged.

expatinscotland · 12/12/2007 13:36

I couldn't agree more, with edam's Mon 10-Dec-07 09:36:46 post.

Kathyate6mincepies · 12/12/2007 13:52

Talking of hate campaigns, it's interesting how Penny Mellor gets blackened. There was that dreadful blog (by Rita Pal I think) that kept getting posted on the Fran Lyon threads, which argued that you could tell what sort of a person Fran was from her associates who included the 'ex-jailbird' Penny Mellor.

So once you get sent to prison you are (to many people) automatically suspect, no matter what it was for.

Elizabetth · 12/12/2007 13:58

You have to wonder if Southall liked to accuse parents of MSBP because he was incompetent and his diagnostic skills weren't up to scratch. We already know that his training was fairly minimal.

Rita Pal is an idiot. Hope that doesn't get MN sued for libel.

edam · 12/12/2007 14:03

You are free to call someone an idiot, the libel laws aren't quite that repressive yet.

Interesting theory, Elizabetth. Maybe he was insecure about getting a consultancy without (apparently) being a fellow of any Royal College.

bossybritches · 12/12/2007 15:47

But to use the phrase "totally unhinged" about anybody would be I suppose?

Not that I would of course!

[grin}

bossybritches · 12/12/2007 15:48
Grin
Ozymandius · 12/12/2007 16:38

ex-jailbird like Emily Pankhurst or Rosa Parks or Aung San Suu Kyi in Burma...

It's such a stupid insult.

bossybritches · 12/12/2007 17:27

Yes the sort of insult that gets flung when when reasoned arguement isn't possible because they have to resort to below-the -belt tactics.

mumofteens · 14/01/2008 11:57

There's a whole lot more stuff about Southall and Meadow that could come out. It's hard to understand precisely what was motivating them. Initially, they probably did have good intentions. But in their cases, power most definitely corrupted.

It is also not true that there is not much money in this type of work. Medical expert witnesses make very good money - particularly if a case goes to court.

You know - if you don't like the heat, get out of the fire. IF these medical professionals had been thoroughly professional, had followed the guidelines, protocols and ethics, they WOULD NOT have come to grief. Or, if they had, justice would have prevailed.

I think Meadow was quite lucky to have successfully appealed against being struck off. I think he found a toady judge who was prepared to massage his ego and overlook his very poor evidence in court.

Meadow's appallingly inaccurate and insensitive statistical comments, comparing SIDS odds with Grand National winners, spoke volumes about his pomposity, use of "evidence" and lack of humanity.

Really, children are so much better off without him, ditto Southall. They did give the medical profession a bad name, which is why they were struck off.

According to the GMC, Southall has "deep-seated attitudinal problems". I would go further and say Southall's behaviour was psychopathic.

What is really scary is how powerful they were, for so long, and have they have been and continue to be protected by those in authority (especially the Royal College). It is also odious in the extreme that they have pleaded the victim status when they themselves have been instrumental in wrongful convictions and splitting up families, not to mention wrongful diagnoses leading to serious untreated illnesses in children.

This is not "in the interests of the child".

mumofteens · 14/01/2008 11:58

There's a whole lot more stuff about Southall and Meadow that could come out. It's hard to understand precisely what was motivating them. Initially, they probably did have good intentions. But in their cases, power most definitely corrupted.

It is also not true that there is not much money in this type of work. Medical expert witnesses make very good money - particularly if a case goes to court.

You know - if you don't like the heat, get out of the fire. IF these medical professionals had been thoroughly professional, had followed the guidelines, protocols and ethics, they WOULD NOT have come to grief. Or, if they had, justice would have prevailed.

I think Meadow was quite lucky to have successfully appealed against being struck off. I think he found a toady judge who was prepared to massage his ego and overlook his very poor evidence in court.

Meadow's appallingly inaccurate and insensitive statistical comments, comparing SIDS odds with Grand National winners, spoke volumes about his pomposity, incompetent use of evidence and lack of humanity.

Really, children are so much better off without him, ditto Southall. They did give the medical profession a bad name, which is why they were struck off. According to the GMC, Southall has "deep-seated attitudinal problems". I would go one further and say Southall had a serious personality disorder.

ruty · 14/01/2008 15:43

Sophable, if you are still reading this, I think the 'glee' that you perceive on this thread is actually massive relief that justice can be done. Recently it has seemed that parents have no power at all if an egomaniac [you say arrogant git, I say egomaniac when you are prepared to destroy a family by watching a TV programme]decides to accuse one of MsbP. The closed courts will back one egomaniac's hunch based on not very much evidence at all and forbid the parents from talking about it. It is very, very frightening. that is why people feel strongly, i think.

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