Boy 10 mauled to death at holiday park

[Witchofzog]

I can't link on this phone but it is on most news sites. The owner was found off site after a police hunt so possibly fled when she knew her dog had killed a child. It's just awful - a young boy probably just going to the loo in the middle of the night on a campsite having his life ended because of a dangerous dog and an owner who can't control and/ or keep it securely away

This is such a shocking WTAF story. That poor wee boy, my DS is the same age and I would never ever leave him on his own in a caravan even without the dog.

But to leave a dog and the wee boy together utter stupidity.

I have a large breed dog, if she showed even the slightest bit of aggression to any of my 4 DC or anyone else I’d walk her into the vets to be put down myself.

What has happened here is shit decision making by the adults involved.

Yes, the dog should long ago have been put down.

Haven’t seen any actual evidence that the dog has done anything before. That remains to be seen. It should never have been left with this child overnight. All alone.

There is a news article that says this dog has been involved in 4 prior incidents

That poor little boy. What a devastating, and completely avoidable situation. That dog had already attacked so why on earth was it allowed anywhere near a child, let alone, left unattended with him in the middle of the night? I will never understand why anyone would want to own such a big powerful animal that is clearly capable of killing a child... Why take that risk? I feel bad for the mum as she will obviously never forgive herself for making this poor judgement call, but you can't say the warnings weren't there. The fact this dog had a history of aggression, was in a strange environment, with its owner not present, and left alone with a child (that it doesn't normally live with) at night time, are obvious huge risk factors. This was a really bad mistake... One she'll regret making for the rest of her life. RIP Frankie

Incidents could mean anything and news doesn’t mean reliable.
Tragic. And completely the fault of the human adults involved.

To all the posters who seem to take offence when people point out that it’s the humans rather than the dog at fault in these sorts of awful cases....

Nobody is saying that dogs who attack are “nice” dogs. In many cases, they need to be pts. But dogs are amoral. They don’t make a conscious judgement whether to attack humans. They don’t “do” right and wrong. They don’t have the capacity. Whatever makes them attack, it’s not their “fault” because they are just dogs, doing what some dogs do in certain situations and circumstances.

It is the adult humans who are at fault. They made the decision to leave the poor child with the dog. They should have known better.

Agreed. I would be amazed if this dog wasn’t PTS. it should never have been left with a child like this.

Oh, FFS, it killed a child! Of course it will be PTS.

Yeah, the adults went in there and mauled the boy to death, nowt to do with the dog .

I would be shocked if the dog wasn't PTS. If nothing else, the owner won't be allowed to have the dog back after this and no one else is going to adopt a dog that's killed a child.

...my children don’t have blood pouring down their legs as another poster said...

I said no such thing

FFS, no shit no one's going to adopt a dog that's mauled a little boy to death, Av, because it should have been done in long ago and duh, will be now. What are you sniffing? Dear god.

I'm sniffing precisely nothing. As I said, no one will adopt that dog so regardless of the legal process it's going to end up PTS. Hopefully it will be done sooner rather than later, to avoid the dog languishing in kennels for a year or more while the court case progresses.

Oh, yes, poor dog languishing . Good god! Poor kid, languishing in a grave forever, but hey, it was nowt to do with the dog!

Yeah, the adults went in there and mauled the boy to death, nowt to do with the dog

Ffs. Nobody is saying the dog didn’t DO it. Just that the fault lies with the adults.

Naturatint you seem to be determined to see what you want to see in posts 😏

Yep. Uh huh. Wow. Mind.blown.

The worst thread yet for the obnoxious minimising of tragedy by dog fools.

A child is dead. And ever more children will die and more people will be mauled and injured, unless the law is changed.

There is no justification or excuse for dog attacks and the misery they cause, whether the attacks are fatal or not.

Dogs have no rights; and owners of dogs have no rights to expose anyone else to harm from their dogs. No-one else is to blame other than the dogs and their owners.

@Naturatint If I say it's for the sake of the police's budget will that make you feel better? The dog won't connect the year or more in kennels with the dead child. There's no reason to drag things out; it will be better for absolutely everybody if the dog is PTS sooner rather than later.

I don’t know why people are blaming the boy, talking about babies and mentioning things like small dogs biting. None of it is relevant. There’s biting and there’s killing. I have 2 different breeds and can find 1 case of a child being killed in America by one type, no cases on the other.

@Naturatint If I say it's for the sake of the police's budget will that make you feel better?

WTF? Honestly, you sound unhinged and people like this are a lot of the reason people get mauled by dogs, the owners worship the bloody dog. Make me feel better? Eh? A child is dead, died a horrific death screaming so loud the drunk twats woke up and he was killed by a dog. It's an animal. It's not a person. Doesn't have the same rights. Get over it. Carve yourself a wooden dog totem and worship it or something because the level of victim-blaming and dog apologists and minimisers on this thread is fucking sickening.

And as usual in these cases, a thread eventually turns into a 'poor dogs' topic.

I remember one similar incident, posted on social media in a news report, when the thread became totally dominated by dog owners, but then dont they always. In this instance by the posting of photos of their 'cute babies'. It went on for hours, with dozens of photos posted, and also the back and forth praising of each other's pets

'...aaawww he's so sweet...heres one with the children...he wouldn't hurt a fly, you can tell...aaawww hes playing with his toys...what a beauty...she's smiling for the camera in that one...he's part of the family...I don't trust people who don't like dogs [cue 100s of likes]...he's so soft and cuddly...his eyes are so full of love...

This was all underneath a news report on the horrific death of a child in an attack by a 'bull' type dog and every photo was of the same type of breed. I remember thinking there isn't even any point in trying to discuss this rationally and that if I tried to, I would probably get swamped by more dog photos or told I didn't know what I was talking about, or even risk getting abuse for saying a dangerous dog should be put down. The insensitivity toward victims, the obsessive pursuit of a dangerous hobby, the 'dogs don't kill people, people do' attitude, the selfish need to cling onto something that is so obviously a danger to not just their own family but to the rest of the community too. It all reminded me of Americans who oppose gun control. The NRA and other gun fanatic groups. You might as well not bother because it won't change anything. It's so disheartening and sad when you get to the point of realising that nothing is going to change, because dog owners and dog groups will not do anything about it. They won't campaign against dangerous dogs and that they want more dogs not less

Yeah, the adults went in there and mauled the boy to death, nowt to do with the dog

Then explain to us all, why the mother and dog owner will be charged with manslaughter and neglect

It’s really sad that this thread which ultimately is about a child dying has turned into bickering over dog ownership.

This child would not have died if his mother and the dogs owner hadn’t been more interested in getting pissed with a man. The dog wasn’t safe and was physically capable of killing a child. But that thought obviously didn’t enter their heads. I don’t even want to imagine what that poor child’s last few moments were like, and (if reports are to be believed) it wasn’t his mother in the adjacent caravan who heard what was happening but members of the public who were first on the scene. Horrendous situation but my sympathies lie with the child who has been robbed from having a future. The dog should be pts, the owner and the mother should both be prosecuted.