A 'slop bucket' in every kitchen

[TheDullWitch]

Government wants us to collect food scraps in special bins and then the swill will be taken away to create fuel.

www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1813805.ece

Which is all very well and green. But EEEW! Does anyone's council already do this? Is it stinky?

she'd have been better painting them ....

my ex's family used to do this but the 'slop' was for the chickens

It did smell

interesting post DC. Trouble is Council Tax goes UP year on year but the waste disposal service hasn't got better, it's got worse.

I'm telling you there will come the day when you have to do-it-yourself, we're almost there.

Yes it was quite funny sticking all the stickers on a brown and then a green bin - this is a blue bin. And more improtantly they emptied all 5 thank goodness or else I don't know what I wiould have done with it. 2 weeks before they wouldn't take the over flow from the blue bin. Might depend who does the round. I suspect we might need 3 blue bins every fortnight, never mind 2 as most of the waste if bottles, cardboard, cans - all recycled.

You know who the richest person in China is alleged to be? She's female of course (women rule) but also she's in waste.

My cousin has just done a degree(!) in waste management - maybe he will end up a millionaire

I certainly think it's an interesting market. Also I thnk there ways you can burn it and use the products as energy which is probably cheaper and better than either landfill or shipping it by sea to landfill abroad or trying to reuse when much of it isn't easily reuseable.

Our local councel already beats the UK targets by quite a bit.

It does this by making things fairly simple.

We don't have to separate any of the recycling waste, it all goes in together, glass, paper plastic and metals. They sort it out at the depot.

Garden waste is in the brown bin

The weelie bins are good and are rat/cat/fox proof. There is no noticable smell unless you open the bin.

It is about as somple as they can make it.

then they deserve a gold clock mb

I have been very, very pleased with the changes. I was worried, at first, when they switched to a 14 day pick up.

But following the introduction if the recycle bin we halved the amount of waste we put out.

Garden waste takes the stuff that doesn't fit in our compost bin.

If you take stuff to the tip, it is also subdivided, and they recycle 72% of all the stuff taken to the tip. Again they make this very easy to do.

i think kitchen slop should go into a wormeries not burnt as fuel.

they will take veg pealings etc, but not kitchen slop

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No one's addressed my concerns, I see.

What about the ever-increasing percentage of the population who live in tenement flats?

Communal bins, NO garden or outdoor space, and small living areas (=more money for the developers).

I wonder how many people actually live in flats in the UK, because from what I can gather, most of MN population lives in houses with gardens.

Also, has anyone considered the health effects of all this?

Maggots and rodents.

Those carry diseases, folks, especially in the summer months.

And pests like tics and mosquitos are already on the increase in the EU due to rising temperatures.

I think someone should write a TV comedy show about the mess some local councils are making, literally over all this.

Yes, all kinds of issues. We have people who have to carry rubbish down many flights of steps in our area. People whose roads are too narrow and the vans to take the rubbish haven't been down for a few weeks. It's a huge farce because we don't have national recycling and so you get a load of very low grade people who tend to be those on local councils making decisions. I sit back and laugh at it all.

We have a mouse now - it's quite sweet brown one and it's only there in the garage because of the rubbish changes.

It's a bit like putting the cart before the horse.

The basic infrastructure for dealing with sewage and rubbish in this country is outdated and in desperate need of upgrading.

But instead of fixing that first AS WELL AS getting recycling facilities up to the same standard they are in Europe, the government typically decides to start trying to force people to do what it wants with fines.

How about getting recycling facilities up to scratch AND providing large bins into which to put things BEFORE installing all these Draconian measures?

No, that would require too much common sense.

This whole fracas is like the tax credits of the rubbish world.

Our council are doing it because if they don't they will lose a lot of money - that's the simple reason for it. In fact if I didn't recycle and spent the time I deal with it here working and gave the money to some charity it would be a more beneficial exercise but we don't have the choice as I thnk there are £1000 fines here if you get it wrong.

They keep changing the rules too - so I teach the cleaner, nanny, 3 teeangers, twins all these rules about what goes where and they are now on the 3rd or 4th change. We start with just all one rubbish collection. Then got a green box just for newspaper and glass. Then brown bin for food and garden waste and all kinds of cardboard. Then they changed that so only brown cardboard can go in it when some people but not all got blue bins. Then now blue bins coming for much more than was in the green box so it now includes plastic bottles etc too and the leaflets they issue keep changing too - it used to say washing powder boxes could not go into recyling and now they can. There are about 100 different items and rules for where they go. if one householder has wrong stuff in a blue bin lot then the council will have to landfill all that group - so all your recylcing effort was wasted.

Funniest bit of all when they started there was too much recycling so they were just dumpoing it so you get loads ofp eople carefully cleaning cans, cutting their fingers on them, sorting them and then find they were all dumped anyway.

Xenia, when I was living in Leicester they gave us some leaflets about how the would soon be upgrading our green-bag-for-paper-and-plastics to boxes-for-paper-and-glass. They said they would be rolling it out over the city over the course of the next few months. So I read the leaflet carefully and planned my new system.
Two years later the boxes for our street arrived.

It's the chopping and changing that is hard. You could up all kinds of cardboard in the brown bin with food and garden waste adn then when the blue bins came out only brown cardboard could go in the brown bin even if you didn't get have a blue bin so in effect you had to go back to throwing out all the cereal boxes into normal rubbish for a time but now we have hte blue bin so the cardboard goes into that.