Trussell Trust research on foodbank usage over school holidays

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Hello,

The Trussell Trust have been in touch about their recent research which shows a rise in the number of children being fed by foodbanks over the summer holidays, with 4,412 more three day emergency food supplies being given to children in July and August 2016 than in the previous two months.

Between July and August 2016, of all 67,506 three day emergency food supplies from The Trussell Trust foodbank network that went to children,

27% went to 0-4 year olds

47% went to 5-11 year olds

21% went to 12-16 year olds

5% went to children of an unknown age.

The new figures come as The Trussell Trust launches its national Summer Appeal and encourages people to donate to their local foodbank as the school holidays start.

We at Mumsnet HQ sometimes get asked what Mumsnet users think about families using foodbanks, and about our users' experiences of using them themselves, so do please let us know what you think. Do you have experience of using foodbanks to feed yourself and/or your family?

Thanks,
MNHQ

of course I do, I know exactly what is happening here, you are enabling her with all your pussyfooting around and first world sensibilities.

She is using a food bank to feed her children because it is so much less trouble and more convenient than arranging to be able to feed the with the child benefit they are allocated TO BE FED WITH

I stand by my original comment you have no clue what so ever.

This women is a victim of DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
Her partner controls all of the money that comes in to the home.
He is a liar and expert manipulator.
She has spent 10 years suffering his abuse and is so scared of him and losing her children she has not got the strength to fight back.

Your comment Copper is one of the vilest I have ever read on mumsnet.

What are my first world sensibilities exactly?

Luckily there are people the polar opposite of you copper who have an ounce of compassion and give to such charaties. I really hope you never find yourself in need but if you do there will be support for you.

MNHQ i ask that you look at coppers comments and decide if women suffering DV seeking out foodbank info really need to read such disgusting comments?
If you think they are fine to stand then so be it.

It doesn't make any difference does it, those children have been allocated child benefit, they have been provided for.

The fact that YOU think it is acceptable for an individual to CHOOSE to allow the money for her children to be taken by someone else, does not make it so.

You claim to be in possession of the facts, yet you are colluding with this abuser rather than reporting him

I really hope you never find yourself in need I promise you I have been in far more need in my life than this person for whom the state has fully provided.

So have many others, and so are many others in society right now. Not people in receipt of child benefit. Not people who stand by whilst food is taken from her children and go and get hand outs else where instead.

There will be as much food bank uptake as people are prepared to resource food banks.

She is not CHOOSING!!

He controls it all.
The CB is in his name and goes in to his bank as is the CTC because its a joint claim.
In the eyes of the law and DWP he has not broken any rules.

You claim to be in possession of the facts, yet you are colluding with this abuser rather than reporting him

I would rather feed the children and support the mum then see them starve.
That is not colluding with the abuser that is trying to gain the trust and confidence of the mum to show her that leaving does not mean she will lose her children and she will have support once she does.

'The people in real need in this community are NOT the people with CB coming in.'

Complete and utter bollocks, as is that CB is strictly for feeding children. They have to be housed and clothed, too, funny that. Plenty of people in receipt of CB are also in private lets and due to LHA caps, are using increasing amounts of their entire income to pay rent, or their other benefits have been sanctioned, meaning the CB has to be used to keep the roof over the head, too, or they have been made redundant and are waiting for UC to kick in, but still have to pay that pesky rent and LHA is paid in arrears, too. All manner of reasons.

Yeah the evil abuse victim taking food for her children. She just needs to call the police on him right!?

No fucking idea have you.

He controls it all.
The CB is in his name and goes in to his bank as is the CTC because its a joint claim.

sort it out then. You claim to be in a position of authority. or do you just enjoy the power to bestow wondrous gifts of food, (from other people's generosity)

as I keep saying. Collusion, If not abusive in itself.

No fucking idea have you

far more idea than you, obviously

'sort it out then. You claim to be in a position of authority. or do you just enjoy the power to bestow wondrous gifts of food, (from other people's generosity)'

You're just being goady then because you know damn well that legally no one can 'sort it out' without a court order except the recipient or his/her next of kin upon the recipient's death.

You claim to be in a position of authority

I never said such a thing!

The CB cannot just be changed.
It is in his name and he voluntarily has to give it up.
While the DC still live with him this will not happen.
The mum is not stong enough to leave so I am working with her to achieve that.
Even if she does leave and makes a counter claim for CB it can take 12 weeks minimum to sort out if he does not sign it over.

You are I agree just been goady now.

Sort it out. Oh yeah that's something that can happen. Yeah cosmic will just pop over and tell him to switch it over. Sure he will be well happy with that you fool.

The argument 'I use cb for food so everyone else should' is completely absurd.

The suggestion that someone chooses to be in a controlling relationship is just plain ignorant.

Ehy that poster is on an advice board I've no idea.

My ex took every bit of money.

I couldnt afford anything.

He spent years and years wearing me down to think that nobody would believe me if I told them what he was really like, that he would get my dc if I left, that this is what life should be like, that everything was my fault.

When I eventually left I struggled to get things put over to me because it was all in his name and i was in hiding.

I used a food bank more than once. Now I'm in a position to 'pay it back' and have been doing so weekly.

Life isn't as easy and straight forward as you seem to think Copperbeech33

I certainly hope you never need support for anything.

Wham

Copper you are the most appalling poster I have seen for awhile on here you are clueless about abuse why not do the freedom programme and open your eyes

Copper your posts are the most disgusting victim blaming ive seen on here in a while.

Do you think MNHQ will delete my posts as I have quoted copper and I dont want anyone who maybe looking for support to read such bile?

I'm so sick of this ignorance.

Open your eyes and look around you.

There are whole families sleeping in the street. There are tiny children putting their heads down on concrete pavements or in the dirt under bushes right now, in our towns and cities.

There are teenagers alone and utterly destitute.

A local church have been sheltering a family. Mum Dad and two year old, refugee status, no recourse to public funds. They were sleeping in the park for three months, they are now sleeping under the pews.

( This is not illegal in churches, by the way, they are exempt from all regulations applying to accommodation)

Look for yourself, find out the official government figure for rough sleepers in the UK, then find out what percentage each council thinks they have on their street. Westminster thinks 10%, for example, Tower Hamlets thinks 15%, last time I knew.

You will very quickly see that adding even a handful of separate boroughs and counties together you will reach several THOUSAND percent of what the government are claiming.

So to the mother whose children currently have their heads on pillows beneath a waterproof roof behind a safe front door, with night clothes and tooth brushes, and blankets, with benefits, and child benefit to feed the children with, in addition to the huge bonus of a free cooked meal every single school day, when that mother hasn't bothered to account for the school holidays in her budgeting, ( they were hardly unexpected) I have limited sympathy.

A few people in this situation need occasional help, a very few.

Spend less on gas and electricity, they are not essential, but a lot of households act as if they were. We went a week without electricity earlier this month, and its do big deal. We went a couple of years without gas a little while back.

Maybe because I have been a rough sleeper myself, maybe because I have traveled widely and seen a wide range of realities across the globe, maybe because i work so closely with the truly destitute in London.

But I do get incredibly impatient when people with adequate homes and adequate incomes make themselves out to be hard done by, when they are actually very privileged.

And it is worse when they teach their children to feel hard done by too.

maybe because i work so closely with the truly destitute in London.

I certainly hope you don't as you lack understanding, compassion and the ability to see outside of your own experiences.

I'm so sick of this ignorance.

Possibly the only thing you've said that I agree with.

The good ol' race to the bottom Copper, there's a strawman argument and an ignorant and weak one at best.

So because others in other places have it harder, no one is in need here unless they are sleeping out.

So to the mother whose children currently have their heads on pillows beneath a waterproof roof behind a safe front door, with night clothes and tooth brushes, and blankets, with benefits, and child benefit to feed the children with, in addition to the huge bonus of a free cooked meal every single school day, when that mother hasn't bothered to account for the school holidays in her budgeting, ( they were hardly unexpected) I have limited sympathy.

A few people in this situation need occasional help, a very few.

I'd be interested in how you cooked and provided food for your family with no electricity or gas and what your LL thought of your using open fire to cook with. How did you keep clean with no hot water in this cold climate?

'Spend less on gas and electricity, they are not essential, but a lot of households act as if they were. We went a week without electricity earlier this month, and its do big deal. We went a couple of years without gas a little while back.'

And get evicted or served notice by your LL because damp has built up since you didn't turn the heating on.

'So to the mother '

Your misogyny and victim-blaming come across in every line like this.

I've travelled all over the world, too, lived in many nations, been very poor, been not so poor, been comfortable, etc.

Many of us have. Fortunately for most of us the experiences taught us to be more open-minded and leave ignorance and misogyny behind.

Copper it is not a race to the bottom.

There is much wrong with a society that treats the vulnerable like they dont exsist.

You can support more than 1 vulnerable part of society it is not a case of " you support food banks thats wrong there is suffering on the streets you should support that"
Your earlier posts about the DV victim were vile.

Spend less on gas and electricity, they are not essential, but a lot of households act as if they were.

They are essential. The very young and the very old need them to survive.

I am sorry you were homeless I would never wish that on anyone. Despite your earlier bile I can still find compassion for the circumstances you found yourself in.

I do think you are very ignorant in your thinking that there is only one kind of struggle that deserves help.

I'd be interested in how you cooked and provided food for your family with no electricity or gas and what your LL thought of your using open fire to cook with. How did you keep clean with no hot water in this cold climate?

there you go you see, so many of the posters here claiming they need the child benefit to pay the bills have attitudes like this.

We washed in cold water, as do most of the world, as have most Europeans done throughout history.

Most of the uk is NOT cold enough to NEED heating. To use for comfort and convenience , yes, but this is the first generation for whom it has been universal, I'e certainly had many times in my life without it, it is not necessary, certainly not in the summer, certainly not instead of using child benefit to feed children.

as for damp, I would not consider anyone living in seriously damp conditions adequately housed, and you will see my post is about people adequately housed. I am not talking about hte few spots of damp here and there we all have.

as to referring to mothers, we have only been talking about mothers.

I am not offering an ignorant and weak argument at all, and I am far far better informed than a lot of you.

Food banks are CREATING the problems, and perceptions of problems, they are not helping anyone. They are contributing to the infantalisation of people who could perfectly well function independently if they were expected to, they are not in any way addressing the serious poverty in our society, they are only giving more to people who already have .

How do you store meds in the fridge with no electric Copper Google David Clapson

How do you charge a power chair or mobility scooter without electric

I really really hope you dont work with vulnerable ppl Copper?

Copper you are the most appalling poster I have seen for awhile on here you are clueless about abuse why not do the freedom programme and open your eyes

my eyes are wider open than yours. I'm not "clueless" because I'm not falling into line with your narrative.

Yep, it is always the fault of mothers.

No slagging off for the father who claimed the child benefit for himself and wouldn't use it to feed his children. Certainly not. Just heap the shame and blame onto the mother, don't even mention the father in your rush to judge the mother.

And no slagging off of fathers who fuck off entirely and don't look back to the children that they have abandoned. And so the only parent that they can rely on has to approach food banks for help.

But no, it is the mother's fault that she failed to budget the child benefit that she has NO FUCKING ACCESS TO.

I'm so sick of this ignorance.

Amen to that.

Copper 1972 called They want their attitude back!!!

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p055vzj1/tuesday-documentary-the-block