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U.K. 'Quietly' announced it won't be taking anymore unaccompanied child refugees

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Motherofhowmany · 08/02/2017 17:07

Absolutely appalling, we've only resettled 350 of the promised 3000.

I work with some of these children. The things they have seen are horrendous.

www.independent.co.uk/news/only-350-syrian-refugee-children-will-be-allowed-to-settle-in-britain-thousands-less-than-promised-a7569691.html

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GraceGrape · 14/02/2017 09:06

We aren't exactly wealthy though
We are the sixth largest economy IN THE WORLD!

GraceGrape · 14/02/2017 09:10

I actually think we should be using Greece as a shining example of a country that has taken in thousands and thousands of refugees and is sheltering them in a tine when they have their own economic problems. We cannot possibly complain that Greece isn't doing a perfect job of it when we are doing nothing!! Yet more excuses.

GraceGrape · 14/02/2017 09:16

if you are in debt you are in debt

The UK's national debt is around 83% of its GDP. The Greek national debt is around 180% of its GDP.

woodhill · 14/02/2017 09:16

I think we have done plenty over the years' to support refugees and economic migrants sometimes to the detriment of the indigenous population so disagree.

Sixisthemagicnumber · 14/02/2017 10:42

But we are bailing Greece out gracegrape. We (the EU countries) are effectively paying to keep them afloat. It could be argued that the rest of the EU is subsidising them in everything, including providing for asylum seekers.
I won't use the spending habits and financial situation of a bankrupt person as an example of how I should be spending my money and I don't think as a country we shouldn't be looking to a bankrupt country as a good example either.

Sixisthemagicnumber · 14/02/2017 10:45

The Greek national debt is around 180% of its GDP.

That's right. And the Greek people are really suffering because of it. It wasn't that long ago that we were hearing about welfare cuts being so drastic in Greece that many many people couldn't even feed their children. It wasn't even relative poverty, in many cases it was absolute poverty.

PausingFlatly · 14/02/2017 10:49

woodhill, that reminds me of a politician who was challenged about refusing to help a homeless person. His reply to the journalist was that "He'd helped homeless people in his day."

To which the obvious reaction is, "So is this not your day any more? Is your day over?"

If something's day is over, it doesn't have much of a future.

PausingFlatly · 14/02/2017 11:48

Today's news: Afghan interpreter Javed Hotak 'let down' by UK government

Afghan interpreter for the British Army, receiving death threats from the Taliban, came to the UK via Calais, asylum refused.

He said: "You call [British soldiers] heroes. We saved your heroes. We interpreted for them. They just used us and leave us... If you cannot take the responsibility, don't send your troops. Maybe we work for somebody else, now we would be safe."

What do think this sort of shit does for British servicemen & women? Actually for any Brit in difficult areas, and for any British endeavour there?

The cost of shitting on these people is a lot higher than any cost of having them in the UK (which may turn out to be a net benefit not cost anyway).

Sixisthemagicnumber · 14/02/2017 12:01

As far as I am concerned, if he worked alongside the British forces, interpreting, then he should be treated as an ex British serviceman and given leave to remain here. I felt the same about the Gurkhas and was really pleased when they were allowed to remain here after a lengthy campaign.
Sending a man back who has interpreted for the British forced and is receiving death threats as a result is almost certainly committing him to death.

GraceGrape · 14/02/2017 12:08

Six The UK has not contributed to the bail out of Greece. The Eurozone countries pay into their own bailout fund which the UK and other countries outside the Eurozone do not contribute to. There was an instance where EU money from a different fund had to be used, but an arrangement was made between the EU and the UK that the UK's share would be repaid to them and we would be paid compensation if Greece defaulted on their payments.

And I don't really understand the point of your second post. I agree the Greek people are suffering as a result of their national debt. Nevertheless, they are continuing to take on support many refugees. Whatever the economic difficulties in Greece, it is not a warzone like Syria.

Headofthehive55 · 14/02/2017 12:27

We gave more money than we actually pledged last year at the London conference for Syrian aid, to enable children to have continued education. U.k. Was one of the top doners. We honoured our pledge unlike some others.

Sixisthemagicnumber · 14/02/2017 12:28

Wether the UK co tribute on to the Greek bailout will be repaid is irrelevant. Without the money given / loaned by other countries they would be In a very dire situation. whikst greece is providing for so many asylum seekers its own people are going without even the most basic of things. I don't want the UK to be in a position where it takes so many unaccompanied child asylum seekers that it cannot cope and it will have a significant impact on children already here in the care system. If we do t haver Bough foster placements for British children how do we find more for asylum seeking children? People can't just open their doors and take in a couple of asylum seeking children, the care system doesnt work like that. And foster placements are expensive and social care is already chronically underfunded.

GraceGrape · 14/02/2017 12:51

But six, social care is underfunded because it is not a government priority, not because it cannot be afforded. The money is there, the government just doesn't believe that spending on refugees will be a vote-winner, and from some views on this thread I can see why. Although it would gain my vote if it adopted some more humanitarian policies.

Sixisthemagicnumber · 14/02/2017 12:55

The govt don't even see spending money on social care for our elderly, disabled and sick is a priority grape. Whether the money is there is irrelevant as the goby are not putting into social care. We can't spread what little funds are provided even further to the detriment of those already needing social care services.

DalekBred · 14/02/2017 15:42

Yawn...and there again the luvvies et al, Linekar, Cumberbatch and Coldplay writing an open letter to Downing St to bring more ''children'' into the UK.

Oh yes, they are soooooooooooo opening their own lavish mansions for the ''refugees'' aren't they? fucking millionaires all of them.not one disabled/elderly/vulnerable among them.

they make me bloody puke.

I don't do twitter/facebook whatever, if anyone who see the 'Emporors new clothes' does, maybe they could go on these peoples Twitter and point this out to them please?

Headofthehive55 · 14/02/2017 16:30

If you are in debt there is no money!!!

PausingFlatly · 14/02/2017 17:02

Well, apart from money for income tax cuts, money for inheritance tax cuts, money for vanity projects like free schools and more grammars.

That sort of no money.

GraceGrape · 14/02/2017 17:03

But Head my point is that Greece is in debt and has to pay. Most countries are in debt but somebody has to pay for refugees. They don't have a home! Surely the wealthiest countries should pay a fair share.

Shockers · 14/02/2017 17:14

I wrote to my MP and received the strangest email back, talking all about the pledge to take in 3,000 child refugees. My email was asking why that promise had been reversed. I only received the email this morning. I'm quite confused.

Headofthehive55 · 14/02/2017 17:44

I would prefer for the no money to go to the NHS, cancer research, or help for the homeless - that are already here first. When those are housed, we can house others. You can't spend the money twice.

UncontrolledImmigrant · 14/02/2017 17:48

Some real empathy vacuums on here yikes

Fair enough you couldn't give a shit about helping refugees

Maybe you could have a word with your government then about not creating more of them through atms sales and military adventures overseas

user1486924355 · 14/02/2017 17:49

Exactly Head. Enough is enough.

user1486924355 · 14/02/2017 17:50

Me too, Darlek.

Headofthehive55 · 14/02/2017 18:27

So if you spend money on housing refugees, you couldn't give a damm about the homeless here already, or people needing medical help here then?
They both can't be your top priority!

UncontrolledImmigrant · 14/02/2017 18:32

There is the money for all of that

The skyrocketing number of homeless people is completely coincident with the austerity measures introduced by Cameron's government and maintained by the current one

It is a choice. The fact that there are so many people in need here is a choice.

It is utterly disingenuous and beyond contempt to pretend that not accepting refugees has anything to do with not having the resources - it is everything to do with having the resources but not wanting to use them

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