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Three Year Old Girl Kicked Off Plane For Tantrum

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Earlybird · 23/01/2007 20:01

Read it here:

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Blu · 24/01/2007 12:10

(s'all right, Seb - i didn't mean you...but the shorsightedness of parents who DON'T take it seriously. Poor you, your experience sounds horrible )

hana · 24/01/2007 12:10

i'm in the camp with hnot much sympathy either
I had to retstrain dd1 in her seat for takeoff on a flight to canada when she was nearly 3 - she had so much adrenaline pumping thoruhg her little body and absoslutely would not sit - I had to hold her down until the seatbelt sign was off

then asked for a glass of wine
extra large
ever since then she has been fine, it did come out of nowhere and not like her - but it does and can happen

TwoIfBySea · 24/01/2007 13:40

I would imagine the parents probably got themselves in a right knicker-twist with their dd creating havoc and all the other passengers hating their existance. They needed Nanny 911! I worked in the US as a nanny (not on a show though) and American parenting tends to let the kids rule. This isn't everyone but most of the people I saw were helpless when faced with the fury of a toddler.

We have only had the chance to fly with dts once, when they were just under 2. Knowing plenty of flight attendants from my previous job as a passenger service agent I had lots of advice. Mainly, to stop their ears popping which causes the biggest problem, take their drink or juice in a sports cap bottle, make them drink it during take off and the force of their having to suck at it a little prevents their ears going. As already mentioned, make up their own backpack.

I also told them that if they didn't behave the captain would come and give them into trouble. Ended up they slept through both flights and I wish I could share the advice but I don't know why!

Imafairy · 24/01/2007 13:50

What I can't get is that it would take longer to geth three people off a plane, and locate their luggage etc than just restraining a 3yo!!!
Having said that, I have a large 3yo and I have travelled with him and DS2 on my own, and even I can get him to sit down in his seat (bless him, he is such a seasoned flier that when we get on a plane he hops into the window seat and puts his own belt on ) Bribery is KEY, as are new toys, comics etc.

OrmIrian · 24/01/2007 13:53

I'm afraid that I think they were right to kick her off. Not nice but no choice. Plane was late - child wouldn't get in seat. How long would it have taken mum and dad to calm her down? How long is a piece of string? With mine it might easily have been 30 minutes and the little girl was obviously really upset - I frequently have to manhandle my 3yr old into the car seat and strap him in by force ! I can see it was awful for the family though and they have my sympathy.

A bit OT but I can't help thinking that kids who kick up and make life horrible for other adults are one of the reasons we are so unwelcoming to kids in public places. If an adult behaves badly they might be asked to leave, if a child does the same everyone will look embarrassed or tut and give dirty looks but it's left up to the parent to sort it out. It shouldn't be IMO.

paulaplumpbottom · 24/01/2007 13:54

Thats right we American parents we are just sooooo incompetant. I'm sure there are no British children who misbehave.

OrmIrian · 24/01/2007 13:57

Eh? Who was that directed to?

paulaplumpbottom · 24/01/2007 14:00

Twoifbysea

TenaLady · 24/01/2007 14:04

Skimmed through thread. It seems to me that its unfortunate for the parents but we cant stop the world spinning for a child to have a tantrum or settle down. Airlines need to get going when they are told or suffer the consequences of long delays until they get another slot. There arent any magic traffic lights in the sky to halt all other traffic whilst their plane takes off after the little girl has calmed down.

Lesson learned by parents and maybe they will leave it for a while before they fly again.

TenaLady · 24/01/2007 14:06

Jolly good of the airline to refund money too. I dont think I could name an airline that I fly with that would do the same. The contrary actually, probably charge me for the inconvenience.

Blu · 24/01/2007 15:42

It doesn't sound as if the lesson has been learned by the parents, though!

TwoIfBySea · 24/01/2007 16:41

How did I know that would get someones huff up. Anyway, what I meant was there are different parenting skills in each country and as I said I wasn't meaning everyone but perhaps I didn't make myself clear enough. I was relating in general to what I had seen (and also what American friends have said.) I also said I have sympathy for the parents dealing with that in a public place, it is never nice.

And believe me British children can be just as bad as can all nationalities, again, to spell it out I-do-not-mean-everyone. All my own opinion, feel free to have a moan at me, everyone does.

gingermonkey · 24/01/2007 17:34

Sedate the toddler an hour before the flight? Worked with my dd when she was little......

princessmel · 24/01/2007 17:40

I think it was the right thing to do actually. It seems a bit over the top that they have been given free return tickets don't you think?
If it was me I'm sure I'd be very stressed out but I think I'd be able to get him in a seat even if he was like Morning Papers dd.

princessmel · 24/01/2007 17:43

By that I mean very upset and vomitting. Not badly behaved or anything

SoupDragon · 24/01/2007 18:17

"We weren't giving an opportunity to hold her, console her or anything." Apart from all the time she was hitting them and crawling under the seats of course...

Quite right to throw them off. Shouldn't have refunded them the money either let alone offered compensation tickets.

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