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Teachers can confiscate "unhealthy" items from lunchboxes.

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3littlefrogs · 02/07/2015 18:39

Just read this in the Telegraph.

I wonder if they will be given any training by qualified nutritionists to ensure they are sufficiently knowledgeable before depriving children of their lunch?

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Gileswithachainsaw · 06/07/2015 14:52

bet apricot flap jack or shortbread is on the school menu though dark??!!

SunnyBaudelaire · 06/07/2015 14:57

thing is , it won't be teachers it will be 'lunchtime assistants' and they are the same ignorant nasty old pussies that 'dinner ladies' always were.

DarkEvilMoon · 06/07/2015 15:41

Probably but I don't see the school menu. But it wouldn't surprise me

Twilight Those things have good nutritional value too. Milkshakes can have calcium in, crisps have salt which are needed particularly by active children in the heat. It is precisely that I give a damn that my child gets sent with dairy free milkshakes and crisps. To not do so would be not giving a damn! It is not shocking. What is shocking is the complete and utter ignorance and the misinformation that is handed out about healthy eating!!!

Sunny our lunchtime assistants are a problem and actively allowed bullying because it is only boys being boys Hmm I have no doubt that this has the potential to back fire badly.

AliceDoesntLiveHereAnymore · 06/07/2015 15:50

Thankfully our school takes a more logical calm approach, but I see the puddings on the school lunch and also see the sweets that the teachers hand out as rewards and children are allowed to bring in to share regularly for birthdays and I think it seems like one rule for the parents and another for the school. If they want a healthy school, then they need to make it across the board.

rogueantimatter · 06/07/2015 16:02

I agree that it's awful that some children have junk food devoid of nutrition for lunch, but what would the effect of removing it be? If the school replaces confiscated food then some parents might in theory deliberately put cheap junk in lunch boxes knowing the school will then provide something else. Which would be a mixed blessing I suppose.

Otoh, the parent of the child who has food confiscated might make more of an effort with lunch but less effort with food that the school doesn't see. So confiscation would have no effect on the child's diet.

SunnyBaudelaire · 06/07/2015 16:03

" our lunchtime assistants are a problem and actively allowed bullying "

I have seen it myself DarkEvilMoon, in our school they colluded with the bullying.

Edenviolet · 06/07/2015 16:12

I take it you are referring to type 2 diabetes threelittlefrogs because no amount, however huge of fat and sugar causes type 1 diabetes

Ver1tyPushpram · 06/07/2015 16:31

I'm a Lunchtime Assistant [waves cheerfully at Sunny and DarkEvilMoon] I don't police lunch boxes, thankfully, because though the HT released a lunch box policy a few years ago he has never done a damn thing about enforcing it. I do know, because I have eyes and the boxes are open in front of me, that the contents vary in the standard view of nutritional value. Even as an ignorant old pussy Grin I've managed to figure out that a chocolate spread, on white bread sandwich, with crisps and a chocolate roll from a multi pack is generally down the scale a bit from a chicken on homemade, whole wheat roll with carrot and cucumber sticks. I also know, from some of the parents, that some of the more startling lunches are down to dietary or sensory issues, so I've learned to mind my own business and also defend children when those around them decide that they should be the lunch box police.

Our school lunches are made with meat from the butcher a mile up the road. Today's lunch was actual, unprocessed chicken breast portions, new potatoes, peas and sweetcorn followed by an oat and golden syrup cookie (I know, I know).

And (not because it's relevant to the OP, but because it's come up further down) I have no truck with "Boys will be boys". Any sort of aggression or meanness is dealt with calmly and firmly and promptly passed to their Teacher at the end of lunch or the HT immediately (depending on the severity) whatever the gender of the child.

It's been said before, but, if my experience is anything to go by, most Lunchtime Assistants are just plonked in the playground with no training other than what they get from the existing ones (I got to shadow my predecessor for one day and then I was left to my own devices) and little support (It was only at the end of my first year on the job that we got the HT and Teachers on board with any sort of organised playground behaviour management), so if you are having issues then you need to keep on at the school, it can be done and it can be done well, or at least, better.

3littlefrogs · 06/07/2015 19:46

Yes of course hedgehog - completely different conditions.
But you are right - I shouldn't have assumed that people would always know that.

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Edenviolet · 06/07/2015 20:49

Thank you, I always get a bit prickly when the difference between type 1 and 2 isn't pointed out!

I was waiting with dd2 for ds1 the other day and a parent in front of me gave their dc some cake, then the dc asked for more and the parent bellowed "NO YOU CANT HAVE MORE CAKE DO YOU WANT DIABETES?????" And dd just looked up at me all sad. People really don't know the difference so many people say "I've got diabetes and I only need tablets" or "I shouldn't be eating this I'm diabetic" when they have type 2 and it gives the wrong message completely. The amount of times I've been asked did I give dd too many sweets is ridiculous and the Hmm faces when I say a virus caused her diabetes.

Anyway, rant over I just always take the opportunity when I can to point out the differences between the two

CamelHump · 06/07/2015 20:58

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Hulababy · 06/07/2015 21:04

I don't know any teacher or TA at my school who control what the children can and can't eat. We do have guidelines for healthy eating packed lunches, but the teaching staff are not on lunch time duty and do not patrol the dining hall or wherever the children are eating.

In most schools it is lunch time assistants who oversee children eating, and ime they will report to senior staff if there are any issues.

Oldraver · 07/07/2015 12:30

My child when unable to eat dairy was refused things with egg in!

Yes we have had this. A TA came out to me brandishing a box showing me that the gingerbread men contained eggs. She was so bloody chuffed with herself and wanted a pat on the back and all I could say was "eggs are not dairy"

I got no further with the secretary who just kept parroting...."well we have to think of protecting the children". I was trying to make the point that by not getting it right you are doing anything but..

RufusTheReindeer · 08/07/2015 18:49

Apparently I'm one of the"nasty, ignorant old pussies"

Don't police lunchboxes in our school, if we have any concerns we speak to our supervisor who speaks directly to the relevant teacher...not the child

Ver1tyPushpram · 08/07/2015 20:25

We should for a club Rufus, get t-shirts printed and all that Grin.

RufusTheReindeer · 08/07/2015 22:05

Sounds like a plan ver1ty

Baggsie not googling for an image for the t shirt Hmm

BlingedUpBalloon · 08/07/2015 22:08

Excellent news - I could do with stocking up on some chocolate for the afternoon dip!

Oh sorry, no, we've given up by secondary... guess I'll just have to buy my own Grin

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