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Parental income determines child brain power

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LotusLight · 30/03/2015 18:38

What I always said... nothing a mother can do better for her child than earning £100k plus. It is not how many nappies you change but your income that really counts at the end of the day.
www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3018263/Does-rich-make-SMART-Academic-success-linked-parents-wealth-study-claims.html

So get back to work and out earn men.

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funnyossity · 01/04/2015 17:46

OP Probably neither nappies nor cash (on it's own) but input plus genetics.

Barbarella · 01/04/2015 17:49

The fact is that money really does make ones life easier, no two ways about it. I'm not sure if I think it makes kids brighter but I'm glad I have a good income for sure. I wish more women did out earn men, the figures as they stand are pitiful.

funnyossity · 01/04/2015 17:52

Is it an American study?

Ime of the States it's a hugely unequal society where the dice are loaded against the poor.

fairyfuckwings · 01/04/2015 17:55

I have to say - having a daughter with dyslexia, dyspraxia and dyscalulia, she'd have been fucked if we'd relied on her state school. She was lucky that we could afford to pay for private tuition and now, aged 14, she's doing really well.

funnyossity · 01/04/2015 17:58

It's imo a study that shows that socialist principles (especially when it comes to our children) would really benefit the common good.

Thanks for bringing it to my attention LotusLight.

fredfredsausagehead1 · 01/04/2015 17:59

The quote does not prove your point lotus. It proves that poverty does harm brain development, it does not prove that the more and more money you earn, the more successful you become.

If people with no money had the opportunity to be brainwashed Into coaching and pushing their children Into entrance exams, I think those in private schools would be sorely disappointed with the riffraff there.

Instead they're battered down Into believing they are stupid because they were born Into poverty. And because they are battling to survive ...and against the daily fail's perception of them as incapable of helping their children achieve...they can't win.

I clearly remember 20 years ago a similar argument with a woman. She was very proud that her son had got his 4 grade A, A levels from his private school. I asked her how they were more valuable than my 4 grade A, A levels from my local comp? My 1 parent family with 9 children?

Now I know, my results were so much more valuable, intelligence, achievement, empathy, a well rounded view of life.

morethanpotatoprints · 01/04/2015 18:02

Lotus

Your nanny/ tutor/ governess did a good job teaching your dd to read, that doesn't have a bearing on your income though, because without the nanny or tutor I'm sure you could have done it yourself with your brain power.
The difference is a sahp saved a few bob and did it themselves.
you see, brain power = not paying somebody else to do what you can do yourself.

HoneySwampDragonInMourning · 01/04/2015 18:06

Is this one of them threads were the op jumps on a singular survey and justifies its validity with anecdotes?

Works with a survey about smart kids and rich parents.

Survey about how cunt worms are more abundant in people on incomes between 75k and 312k and then the anecdotes and ops are non existent.

Mores the pity, it'd be a more educational thread.

ragged · 01/04/2015 18:15

OP's thinks she is genuinely enlightening us that her way is the best way.

LotusLight · 01/04/2015 18:33

Actually night after night for year after year both of us heard the children read. It' s lovely way to be involved with your children and the more money you earn as a woman the more chance you have to spend good times with your children and do reading practice.

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Joyfulleastersquad · 01/04/2015 18:43

Ah you wasn't being ironic Sad

What a load of bullshit lotus

Millions of house holds read to there kids at night regardless if high earners or not OR SAHM

You dont NEED money to have good times with your kids. I think you may find yourself with very materialistic childen if they grow up with your values.

Having money doesn't make you a better parent, what an ignorant idea!

I worked full time with dd1 and read together and did home work every evening. Now we're in a better position and I'm a SAHM to dd2, fully financially supported my DP and guess what? I still read to dd2 every night! Shock

Joyfulleastersquad · 01/04/2015 18:45

By my dp*

fredfredsausagehead1 · 01/04/2015 18:48

Ha ha very funny lotus GrinGrinGrinGrin

UAprilFool · 01/04/2015 18:53

OP, if you want to start quoting studies to try and back up your embarrassing insistence that you are somehow better than everyone else how about looking at this study on the negitive effects of divorce on children's tertiary education. Seems like a legitimate study too.

Looks like poor and married trumps rich and divorced if you are thinking about the kids brainy'ness Hmm

Joyfulleastersquad · 01/04/2015 19:02

Is this an April fool? As I'm too ill to tell

DoraGora · 01/04/2015 19:14

Well, the Daily Mail isn't exactly the font of all knowledge.

ivykaty44 · 01/04/2015 19:25

There is a vast difference between doing well at school and Brain power, there is nothing to say a school will get the best out of a child

HoneySwampDragonInMourning · 01/04/2015 19:51

The more money you earn as a woman?

Jux · 01/04/2015 21:22

Um, you did see the date of that article, didn't you?

UAprilFool · 01/04/2015 21:39

???
The article I mentioned was published 27 MAY 2014? I think the one mentioned by the OP is from last year too.

catellington · 01/04/2015 21:48

I'm sure op is Xenia.

whooshbangprettycolours · 01/04/2015 22:05

Living in poverty hurts kids. Who knew?

FyreFly · 01/04/2015 22:21

I don't think their study is wrong, I think they've drawn the wrong conclusions though.

If you're smart, you're more likely to go to university, secure a higher paying job etc. You're likely to marry a spouse of similar intelligence. Your kids will also probably be smart, and go to university, and earn a higher wage, and marry someone smart, and have smart kids, repeat ad infinitum.

It doesn't mean poor people can't be brilliant or rich people can't be thick as the proverbial pigshit. But as a rule, intelligence, in whatever form, is more likely to beget financial success.

The results will be further skewed by the fact that if you're lucky enough to be born into a rich family you'll likely go to a private school or have private tuition, possibly better nutrition, have the security to be able to do countless unpaid internships and volunteer projects in order to secure said high-paying jobs that someone of equal or superior intelligence simply can't afford to work towards.

They've got their cause and effect completely backwards. Wealth can't create intelligence, although it can give infinite advantage, but intelligence can create wealth, assuming it's correctly applied.

LotusLight · 02/04/2015 12:35

No , it's just come out. I think it must be this one the Times and mail picked up on 30th March 2015

www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/03/150330112232.htm

Date:
March 30, 2015
Source:
Children's Hospital Los Angeles Saban Research Institute
Summary:
Characterizing associations between socioeconomic factors and children's brain development, a team of investigators reports correlative links between family income and brain structure. Relationships between the brain and family income were strongest in the lowest end of the economic range -- suggesting that interventional policies aimed at these children may have the largest societal impact.

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