£1.7million. What are we actually paying for?

[3littlefrogs]

Please can someone explain what this bill is for?
Goods?
Services?
I genuinely don't know, so would be grateful if someone better informed could explain.
Thanks

The scam this time is:

UK was de a rebate anyway on what we normally pay the EU.

Osborne has "halved" the 1.7 billion that was payable on Dec 1 = TRUE

Because
he has

a) agreed to reduce our expected rebate

b) will pay in 2 instalments instead of the full 1.7 on 1 Dec.

Smoke and Mirrors + Obsfiscation = UK still pays 1.7 billion extra.

Great job Gideon.

You almost had us fooled.

Just like Nigel had us fooled calling for an EU referendum for 20 plus years when his real objective (according to isitmsbut) was to back Zac Goldsmeith's Recall Bill.

You gotta hand it to Farage- he has fantastic foresight to have seen that coming from 20 years ago.

Isitmebut - I have stopped reading ypour posts now because you have clearly lost the plot.

Sorry for they types - was typing rapidly

"Writing on Twitter, UKIP leader Nigel Farage said Mr Osborne was "trying to spin his way out of disaster", saying the UK was still going to pay the full £1.7bn."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29956289

Of course Farage is right to say that. Read my previous posts which explained how Osborne is trying to spin it as 'half' when it's really the full whack.

I agree and agree with Farage, as ever

"no doubt EU 'smoke and mirrors' in there somewhere - but where is the scam this time?"

I don't think the smoke and mirrors is EU smoke and mirrors?

"David Cameron and George Osborne are "trying to take the British people for fools" by claiming to have "halved" Britain's £1.7 billion EU bill, Shadow Chancellor Ed Balls has said."

"By counting the rebate Britain was due anyway they are desperately trying to claim that the backdated bill for £1.7 billion has somehow been halved.

But nobody will fall for this smoke and mirrors. The rebate was never in doubt and in fact was confirmed by the EU Budget Commissioner last month."

– Ed Balls, Shadow Chancellor

www.itv.com/news/update/2014-11-07/osborne-trying-to-fool-public-over-eu-bill-says-ed-balls/

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You know, I'd forgotten that Ed Balls, as the Opposition, would query this wonderful 'halving'.

This will come back to haunt Osborne, the Chancellor who tried to tell us that a whole was actually a half.

Must be something they teacj on these PPE courses

Although I would not trust an Ed Balls who from 1997 has advisor co responsibility with Brown from selling our gold onwards, or Farage as can't oversee his own party's general Election manifesto - the 'devil in the detail' appears to be 'the rebate' that halves the £1.7 billion.

As on the one side, I have heard from the cheap seats this rebate was what we was getting next year anyway, while on the other, it is an ADDITIONAL rebate.

Clearly if Osbourne has not halved it, he is a silly boy for not thinking we'd rumble it, but if he is right on an additional rebate, of course we'd expect apologies from 2010 'what budget deficit Brown/Balls' and a Farage whose economic maths, thinks increasing the UK budget deficit with a extra £19 billion of unfunded annual tax cuts for all with no other policies, is sound UK financial management.

One other thing Osbourne mentioned, was that the cut of the bill was a preliminary move, with more cuts possible once they start to go through the EU's math, going back nearly 20-years.

Governments from time to time 'rebase' their GDP, Consumer Price Index and other indices, to reflect changes in the economy/spending patterns, with the view to make it more accurate data.

It will take a while longer for the Treasury to go through the EU rebasing of the whole UK economy, to get to the bottom of why we had this bill in the first place - and challenges to the data will not make it go up, only down.

Anyone wanting to get all the EU facts and a democratic vote on whether we stay in or out of the EU, can only get that with one party - and it ain't the 'all Farage mouth and trousers' UKIP.