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The poor people in the 'plane, would they have suffered?

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hellymelly · 20/07/2014 17:35

The news is so shocking, have avoided the tv news for days but read the papers today. Combined with the terrible images of injured children in Gaza it is all so upsetting. I can't help but think about the passengers in the downed airoplane, would they have been alive when they hit the ground? Or would they have passed out from lack of oxygen before then? I just hope that they knew nothing and were killed instantly but I realise that is probably unlikely. .

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RowanMumsnet · 24/07/2014 16:47

Hello.

First off, to state the obvious, this is of course a horrendous and upsetting news story, and it's difficult to conceive of any discussion of it that wouldn't be extremely upsetting for someone, or indeed for most people. That said, it is something that lots of people are talking about, and we've always thought it was a bit pointless trying to stop people talking on MN about things that are being widely discussed elsewhere (unless there's a legal issue at stake).

But, we do think it's beyond the pale to accuse someone of mentioning their child's death for the express purpose of causing guilt in other people or to close down discussions.

Of course, if there's anything you want to say about the way you think any poster is behaving, you're very welcome to tell us via the Report button.

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RowanMumsnet · 24/07/2014 17:42

@PhantomTollbooth

And that expression is considered racist by a lot of people now too

Huge apologies if we're wrong, but our understanding is that the expression references the English Pale (a massively problematic phenomenon in itself of course, but the 'pale' being referred to is nothing to do with skin tone).

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RowanMumsnet · 24/07/2014 18:00

@PhantomTollbooth

Rowan I was thinking about the conversation on another thread where it veered from Calais to Irish references about a lawless, dirty and area that was bad in comparison because to travel out of the English Pale meant leaving behind all the rules and institutions of England, considered synonymous with civilization and all that is right and good. I might have got that wrong too.

I didn't mean that to sound as snippy as it came across- should have put an emoticon next to it but thought 'christ, another argument in a moment'. My misfire.

Apologies.

No worries. You may well be right that some of the optics on this one are not great...

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