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Now the Bedroom tax hits Domestic violence victims as 'panic rooms' are levied

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ttosca · 29/03/2014 21:25

Terrified victims of domestic violence are being forced to pay the Bedroom Tax on “panic rooms” in their homes.

The ultra-secure spaces are only created by councils when tenants are known to be at real risk of attack from their brutal ex-partners.

Despite this, hundreds of women are now being told their potentially life-saving sanctuaries will cost them a chunk of their housing benefit.

The panic rooms – spare bedrooms with strong bolts on the doors and bars on the windows – are provided so women can flee there with their children if under attack. Many have a direct phone line to the police.

But data obtained under the Freedom of Information Act shows that 281 ­households in these “sanctuary” schemes have been told to pay around £14 a week extra. The problem is worst in the north east of England where a quarter of homes with panic rooms have been hit with charges.

Campaigners are now calling for a change in the hated new regulations forced through by Tory Work And Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith.

Polly Neate of Women’s Aid said: “The Bedroom Tax is putting women and children at risk. It took no note of the difficulties survivors of domestic violence face in moving and at a time when there is a severe lack of safe, smaller properties for them to move into.”

The controversial new charges are also hitting kidney dialysis patients who treat themselves at home, even though they save the NHS an average £15,000 a year by not going to hospital.

Nick Palmer of the National Kidney Federation, which is already dealing with dozens of such cases, said: “We are very disappointed these very vulnerable people, who often can’t work, are being penalised for saving the NHS a lot of money.

“Dialysis at home is very cost-­effective. And it’s not just the saving of time in hospital. There are reduced transport costs and less complications.”

Government ministers claim the charge will save £490million a year and free up badly-needed larger properties.But the new charge is hitting ­vulnerable people such as the disabled, who often need an extra room.

Anna Bird of the disability charity Scope said: “For the vast majority of disabled people these are not spare bedrooms, these are ­essential rooms. We’ve spoken to disabled people who aren’t able to share a specially-adapted bed with their partner so they sleep in a separate room.

“But they are being forced to move or find the extra cash they don’t have to pay their rent. Many are struggling to make ends meet and getting in debt just to pay for essentials.”

Two-thirds of households affected by the new tax cannot find the cash to pay their rent, according to the National Housing Federation.

In a survey of 183 housing associations the federation found 66 per cent of their residents affected were in arrears.

More than 522,000 people on housing benefit have had it reduced by an average of £14.50 a week .Another 92,000 had their benefits cut for having two “excess” bedrooms, losing around £23.43 a week.

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Nennypops · 04/04/2014 15:46

The stupid thing is, though, that it doesn't actually save money. If people have to leave their houses because they are deemed to have too many bedrooms, the council has to find alternative housing for them and, if they don't have it, will have to do it through the private sector, at considerably greater cost.

I think the government isn't prepared to admit that because they know how utterly stupid it makes them look. I think they are also motivated by the perception that this sort of policy appeals to Daily Mail readers because of the way that they, and papers like them, lump council house occupants together with benefit recipients (even though that is a nonsense in itself) and demonise both. Whatever the motivation, it is entirely cynical and demonstrates, yet again, that this government will always put its own self-interest ahead of its responsibilities.

NiceTabard · 05/04/2014 20:22

There was a thread months back about the panic room issue.

I will try to find it to link it.

IRRC it went like this:

Panic rooms cost quite a few thousand to put in.
Clearly with councils not wanting to splash out (even before all the cuts) they were only installed in cases where there was a massive risk of harm.
Poster on that thread who seemed to know their stuff said that people are not allowed to use panic room for any other use that's the rules. Not to be used as bedroom, storage, whatever. It's purpose is panic room.

She said that they are extremely highly fortified so need to be able to withstand eg petrol poured down the outside and lit, someone going at it with an axe, that sort of thing.

To get people who have had these installed at great expense and for a real genuine need (they wouldn't have been installed on a whim in the first place) seems BIZARRE to me, not to mention incredibly dangerous for the potential victims, and in no way cost effective.

I will try to find the thread.

This is not the first time this has been raised so the govt will have been aware just not interested in making an exception for these people (usually women with children).

I think is evil really, can't think of a better word.

Gobsmacked at so many people saying yeah fuck em on this thread Hmm

NiceTabard · 05/04/2014 20:24

Found the thread. This is what a poster said about how it works in their LA:

"The ones our area uses are mostly in box rooms ( in this area all LA 3 bed houses the 3rd room is a box room) by its self the box room is only just big enough to fit a single bed with either no or tiny bits of space at either end of the bed.

The walls get lined with special stuff that makes it harder for fire to breach the room the windows have bars and sometimes bullet proof glass the door is mostly wood lined with thick metal ( think they type of thing that could with stand an axe or chain saw) inside are storage areas for minimal supplies that would be needed if trapped for more than a few hours.

A condition of having one is that they are not used for normal household things because they have to be kept available for the intended use.

They cost the LA loads."

Will post link in a mo.

NiceTabard · 05/04/2014 20:26

It is from May of last year:

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