Mother of Twins Who Wanted To Avoid Caesarian Scar Charged With Murder

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I can't believe this \Link www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/03/12/1078594547149.html\news report{}. Who could be so heartless? What will be the fate of the surviving twin? Hopefully it will be adopted by parents who know the meaning of unconditional love.

I hope the surviving twin is given the care and attention the mother obviously needed. When I first read this I thought how selfish of her but reading the last article she thought she was to be cut from breast to pubic bone!!! She is in need of medical help.

I had an emergency c-section after suddenly developing pre-eclampsia. I didn't care what happened as long as ds twins were born safe and sound.

This womans tale is a very different from what first read. Just shows you!

What morons brought this case, depriving the surviving twin of his mother? What purpose does that serve? Why is it in the 21st century in supposedly civilised countries women still aren't allowed autonomy over their own bodies? Why does it feel like there's always someone in authority somewhere who has to put mothers in their place? Maybe I've been spending too long on the Meadows thread but society's attitudes to mothers really frighten me.

Didn't she have 2 sections prior to this one?~

Um, I don't know which news reports you were reading, but at least one of the links mentioned that there were traces of cocaine and alcohol in the surviving twin's system.

Whereas I agree there is alarming precedent for rights over your own body (and as Janstar has said, where do you draw the line), it does very much sound like she is not necessarily in a good position to look after the remaining baby for the time being.

That's what one of the articles says yes - the 2nd one, BBC one I think.

I don't agree with the murder trial though, I should add.

AAAArrrggghhh

sorry - just had to do that and dh was telling me off for yelling at the TV. So angry at the completely biased reporting of this just on the news - actually said she refused a c-section for cosmetic reasons. Journalistic integrity my arse!

The report that i heard said that she had refused the cs for cosmetic reasons. And didn't mention anything about her mental state. However, they did mention that the law that she was charged under was specifically designed for drug addict mothers who damaged their babies in the womb. There are many more checks and balances in the judicial system in the us than here, it's unlikely that something like that would have been done without some real reason (more than just a pissed off doctor or evil step monster). And it certainly would be open to many many appeals before any decisions would be final.

I find this completely chilling - what if, for example, she'd been a Jehovah's Witness - would they have allowed a murder trial then?? I think this woman needed some help and surely the powers that be shouldn't have belived her story about her scar worry? The woman needs help, not condemnnation, surely?

i agree carla the woman does need help but they told me that i might have had to have a c section because they thought i was breach in the end and i was suffering from depresion and i said sure what ever it takes to save the baby and who ever said about johovah witness no if that was here religion she could not be done by there religion and as a country we are not aloud to persicute some one because of race colour or creed

I did hear a radio report on this which said that if she had refused the Caesarean for religious reasons, then she wouldn't have been charged.

A JW would only refuse a blood transfusion, they would not refuse a CS for religious reasons. They only object to the 'spilling of blood'. I had two CS and didn't need a blood transfusion with either.

JW will often have quite complex surgery as long as no transfusion is needed.

JW can have substitutes for blood, a hospital in stevenage has a 'blood salvaging' machine which JW can use, just cleans it up and pumps it back in. lovely eh. (i'm sure its something like that)

and that poor woman, to go thro that with her mental health the way it is, then be charged with murder, surely one of her babies dying would be sentance enough. even if she doesnt realise it yet, if and when her mental health is dealt with, then this will probably knock her back to before.