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Phillpots trial is anybody following it?

173 replies

Minimammoth · 14/03/2013 18:51

I am Shock.

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TomDudgeon · 02/04/2013 16:18

Good

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TomDudgeon · 02/04/2013 16:32

Bbc says the men had unanimous verdicts of guilty and she had a majority
Rip little ones

lemonmuffin · 02/04/2013 16:40

The next time people attack as 'benefit bashers' those who dare to express concern about this kind of situation, please remember this:

Mick Philpott 'just wanted house full of kids and benefit money that brings'

Seventeen children in total, from this man.

BabylonReturns · 02/04/2013 16:57

Well, I thought all along that he was utility along with so a mate Mosley, but I'm surprised at her.

Rest in peace little ones,justice will be done now x

expatinscotland · 02/04/2013 16:59

Mairhead is an adult as much as he is.

Minimammoth · 02/04/2013 17:28

Well that ends the trial. I hope we don't get loads of articles from members of the family on how their life was. But I guess it's inevitable. I hope the remainder of his children have a better life and a better example than the one he set.

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youmaycallmeSSP · 02/04/2013 17:36

I haven't been following the news reports as I found the few I did read incredibly sordid but just saw that they've all been found guilty.

I hope Mick's other children have some chance of a better life.

georgedawes · 02/04/2013 18:01

Lots coming out now about his violent past.

specialsubject · 02/04/2013 18:05

This is just horrible. May women learn to reject men like this, may there be help for them to do so and may no more children be killed in these battles.

Pantah630 · 02/04/2013 18:11

I hope he rots and she gets some much needed mental health help while inside. Those poor children.

georgedawes · 02/04/2013 18:15

Emma Willis had a lucky escape :(

donnie · 02/04/2013 18:18

No surprise to me,or anyone by the looks of it. Imagine though, being one of his other children and knowing all your life that your own father did that to your half siblings.
I feel quite strongly that he should have been tried for murder and not MS (although I know why it was MS).
I have no pity for Mairead - I agree that she was most likely a victim of DV but she should have come clean. She had ample opportunity to come clean.For me that is the deal breaker with regards to her.
What an awful, awful case.Sad

georgedawes · 02/04/2013 18:49

I agree, he really could have got prosecuted for murder, see he had a previous conviction for attempted murder. I think the jury should have been told that, but thankfully found guilty without it.

georgedawes · 02/04/2013 19:07

Sorry meant Lisa Willis, Emma is a presenter.

niceguy2 · 02/04/2013 19:59

It's not murder because it was not premeditated. From the sounds of things it was not his intention to kill. Not this time anyway. Manslaughter was the appropriate charge as abhorrent as his crime is/was.

Regardless, he's now got his wish of living in a large house at the luxury of the taxpayers. I hope his fellow inmates give him the welcome he deserves.

georgedawes · 02/04/2013 20:05

Murder doesn't have to be premeditated, but I know what you mean. But, I do wonder if he did mean to cause harm really..he seems so callous that he would put his children in such danger, perhaps he was prepared to hurt them for his own ends? I guess we'll never know the full story.

niceguy2 · 02/04/2013 20:16

From what I've read it seems he didn't intend to kill them. He wanted the kids because of the money he'd get from the benefits. Killing them would have been counterproductive.

NicholasTeakozy · 02/04/2013 21:02

Condemn the guilty, not an entire class. Article by Owen Jones for The Independent.

WhoKnowsWhereTheChocolateGoes · 02/04/2013 21:25

For murder there has to be intent to cause grievous bodily harm, but it can be momentary, rather than premeditated. I guess he genuinely intended to get the children out and did not intend to harm them.

I listened to the statements given by the families of Mick and Mairead on the radio this afternoon, they were very moving and dignified, my heart goes out to them.

Eurostar · 02/04/2013 21:37

Please don't go down the road of saying this was mainly motivated by benefits, this is a very sick man motivated by power and control who could not bear it if a woman tried to be anything but an extension of him. The money was a bonus for him I'm sure but no way it was the main motivation. If benefits did not exist, I doubt it would have stopped him fathering children left, right and centre in his relentless search for power. He would have doubtless just left them in penury.

It has now come out that he was convicted of stabbing his girlfriend who tried to leave him in his late teens and attacking her mother. He of course got a derisory sentence and no supervision it would seem on coming out as he continued to be violent towards women. Clare's Law may have helped his future partners, although they seem to have been so vulnerable, it is questionable if these vulnerable women he chose would have been able to see past the immediate situation of sometimes feeling safe and protected by him and otherwise feeling terrified and powerless. People up thread are saying her performing oral sex on Mosely after the deaths showed she did not care, surely this is about her being enslaved and doing what she was told.

Lisa Willis managed to find the strength to escape, much respect to her, it seems her sister helped. Mairhead presumably had no one in her life to encourage her that she could manage without him (on the relationships forum much of helping women escape domestic abuse is about helping the poster believe they have power themselves and do not need to give it away). I wonder if Lisa would one day have helped Mairhead to escape had things not gone how they did.

I hope he has a very long sentence. I doubt he can ever change and learn empathy or change his need to control women, I fear that, on his release, his notoriety will enable him to enslave further, young, vulnerable women.

PenelopePisstop · 02/04/2013 22:17

And now another Local Authority (Nottingham) announces they are conducting a Serious Case Review. These should be called Shut The Gate After The Horse Has Bolted Reviews. No doubt they will find that Lessons Should Be Learned and at no point did anyone consider that 11 children in a 3 bedroom house, with 2 women taking turns to sleep with a convicted attempted murder, in a caravan in the garden, with another 6 children somewhere, was anything to be worried about. Those children must've been Making Their Own Choices.

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Corygal · 02/04/2013 22:35

Best ever from the Philpott's non-judgemental priest:

"The parents' way of life didn't affect the children's lives.''

It ended them.

Pantah630 · 02/04/2013 23:52

Apparently Maireads sisters tried to get her to leave but she wouldn't. Therefore she had help if she'd wanted it, maybe she was so scared she couldn't go or maybe she wanted to stay. We'll never know the truth in her actions.

The BBC documentary was very distressing and you can feel the despair at the inability to understand the Philpotts actions coming off her family, their friends, the police and teachers in spades. The priest and headmaster of the senior school not though, they seemed more bemused, I can't put my finger on why, but I was Confused at their words. A very, very sad story, those poor children.