Vicky Pryce is guilty

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Chris Huhne was an MP.

He helped make laws.

And he disregarded the law when he wanted.

That is why Chris H11HNE is more guilty than his wife.

He committed the original crime and he lied.

He wanted to be the leader of the Lib Dems and possibly Prime Minister.

He wanted to be a lawmaker.

He wanted to make laws that the rest of us have to abide by.

He should show himself as being someone who respects and abides by the same laws as the rest of us.

Jeez,he was an elected MP,what an arrogant man.

The speeding is not the major offence, it is the lying about it, which they both did, that attracts the potential of a custodial sentence.

I agree that what those children were put through was disgusting. And the boy's text messages to CH broke my heart - I would be devastated if my dc sent me anything like that

Yes,she was wrong to collude.

And it must be hard to refuse if your DH wants you to take his points and he says his job depends on it.

She was wrong but he was the MP.

He,more than any of us should make sure he doesn't break the law.

And if he does inadvertently,then he should face up to it.

He was so arrogant that he continued to break the law by using his phone while driving 16 days later.

Caught again and banned for 6 months.

Class act that man.

Her choice to join in WAS ALSO A CRIME. It is tried as a separate offence to his crime. Hence why she has been convicted. Even in the sorry state this country is currently in, you can't be convicted of something that is not a crime. The crime is perverting the course of justice, you can look it up on the CPS website.

Obviously Huhne can never be an MP again, but in law his hypocrisy does not make him more guilty than her.

I would not be surprised if they ended up with the same sentence.

IMO Chris Huhne should have been barred from being an MP after being banned from driving for using his phone while at the wheel.

They should be setting an example when they are in positions of power.

Echo, that is a very scary thought that Huhne had aspirations to be PM.

Why would he not want to be PM?

He wanted to be leader of the Lib Dems and was a career politician.

Surely they all want the top job if only secretly.

I feel sorry for her - she has to be a lesson to us all- I for one have sat there tearstained , racking my brain to think of methods of revenge...but I guess the lesson here is you have to stay cool - 14 years ago the man I was about to marry called off our wedding and finally admitted to being in love with his 19 year old secretary - I know I can laugh now but God it was tragic - mostly because I lost contact with my almost stepson who was 10 (I had brought him up as my own from the age of 5 ) I had to have the wisdom of Solomon and leave him to his new family - he married the secretary. When the boy was 14 he turned up at my office and we have been in touch ever since - next week he is moving nearer to me with his girlfriend - my point being revenge is not always the way.

If your husband says he's having an affair you should go and find two things: a good solicitor and a new lover. Revenge is a waste of mental energy that can be put to much better use.

A good solicitor needs to be afforded.
A new lover isn't even that easy.

I agree with the revenge bit,but it must be hard not to be bitter when you have a family together.

I'd hope he gets double her sentence,especially if she gets a custodial one.

He did both crimes,he lied to the court and he did the crime.

He didn't actually lie to the court, he pled guilty as soon as the trial started. Prob didn't want to get done for perjury as well...

ScottishMerlotish - thank you. I was suprised nobody else go to this name when I tried it out I too have Hiccup obbessed boys. To be fair, as children's books go I loved them too and all the silly names. I just don't see myself as a Snotlout or a Fishlegs.

You will be very welcome to it when I have finished with it, whenever that may be.

Chris Huhne's trial went on for 14 days before he changed his plea to guilty.

I get that the urge for revenge must be very powerful but don't you just suck it up for the sake of your children? They had one parent who let them down very very badly. They didn't really need the other one to let them down too and drag up things that would have been better off buried or kept to themselves.

You'd hope so wouldn't you BBB .

I do feel for their children.

Karlos, no, no you haven't. You can't be called to be a juror more than once every two years and with about 40 million people eligible to be called you'd better be buying lottery tickets as well if you're lucky enough to be called up more than once in a lifetime

Really? I live in Scotland and got called up twice within eighteen months or so. I was exempted from the second lot of jury service as I'd done it before. But my name was picked out twice. Mind you we have a smaller population and more offences tried by jury up here.

["Points on a licence is chump change compared to an abortion. If he was capable of pressuring her to have an abortion I suspect he was well able to pressure her to do his bidding in the driving matter. "
What? WHAT??? taking someone else's points is a serious criminal offence. Having an abortion is not, nor should it be.
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An abortion against the will or better judgement of the woman is not what was envisioned by the parliament that legalised abortion. Abortion per se is legal but that does not mean an individual woman must have one if her husband insists. In fact I think that is about as far from the intention of the law as a situation could be.

It's a real lesson in life as to how two supposedly intelligent, successful people can balls things up so stupidly.

(1) I happen to know two really powerful, successful women who are utterly confident and dominant at work, whoare totally lilly livered when it comes to relationships with their husbands. (I'm not saying that is the case here - a friend of ours worked with VP for a while and he reported her as being someone you wouldn't mess with - but it is possible.)

(2) Whatever happens, I don't think it serves any purpose for her to have to go to prison (it would be a waste of tax payer's money for one thing). I know it has to be shown that people with privilege get the same treatment as anyone else, but she is hardly a threat to society; and frankly, the public scrutiny/adverse publicity and the shattering of her family that she is suffering now, is surely punishment enough (maybe with a heavy fine or some community service thrown in).

Interesting thread.

Huhne pleaded guilty at the last possible moment, after several attempts by his legal team to get the case thrown out. So his sentence reduction will only be 10%.

There is no reason to imagine this is less serious a crime than any other. Scheming and lying to avoid a legal penalty is a matter which goes to the heart of the justice system.

The jury yesterday found that she was not coerced, she was complicit in perverting the course of justice.

There are three lessons to be learned from this case, which will be emphasised by the sentencing of both Huhne and Pryce:

1. Lying to evade accountability under the law is unacceptable, no matter what the crime, and whether it is civil or criminal.

1. Seeking revenge is usually futile and corrosive, and likely to rebound on the the person seeking revenge.

1. As with Jeffrey Archer and Jonathan Aitken, being a high-flyer doesn't excuse self-serving lies to evade justice, it only means you have further to fall if (and usually when) you are discovered.

The reason I feel sad for Pryce is because I think she was goaded beyond reason by the downright nasty press briefings against her by Trimingham, during the Lib Dem Conference in 2010.

None of them come out of this well, but of the three of them, Pryce is the only one who gets my sympathy.