5 yr old girl "snatched" in Wales

[mumblechum1]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-19795761

Let's all keep our eyes peeled

"'storm the police station and torture the person arrested' - well, hope youve got your cheap thrills from fantasising about that"

Janey I said that. And don't be silly.

Putting myself in the parents shoes - I would want to do that if it was my kid. That's called empathy.

I went for a very rare trip to the cinema last and watched the Sweeney. I know its not entirely factual but I'm sure a lot of police officers were probably like that back then, ie hanging suspects upside down off roofs until they got answers. Of course that doesn't happen now but you have to sort of think well they had a point, if it got the answers.

Like other posters, I agree it must be so frustrating for the police to just get the 'no comment' answers all the time.

So very very . I suspect the first thing most of us do first thing in the morning and last thing at night is check the news at the moment. Still praying that she will be found safe.

What I don't understand, is if the police thought this man was involved, why they didn't follow him for a while before arresting him?

What i don't understand is the vehicle they showed was different to the one reported.

"I went for a very rare trip to the cinema last and watched the Sweeney. I know its not entirely factual but I'm sure a lot of police officers were probably like that back then, ie hanging suspects upside down off roofs until they got answers. Of course that doesn't happen now but you have to sort of think well they had a point, if it got the answers."

The problem was it so often got the wrong answers: people confessed to things they hadn't done and couldn't possibly have done just to get out of there, meaning that investigations went down the wrong track and the real perpetrators got away.

Think about it, if you were in pain, not allowed to sleep for days on end, humiliated and frigthtened, which would you rather tell- the truth or whatever you thought most likely to make the whole thing stop?

There are good reasons why torture is not allowed - and it's not all about consideration for potential perpetrators, either.

cory I didn't say I condoned that behaviour, I just said I could sort of understand why SOME police officers would be tempted to do it if it meant for example, finding/saving the life of a small and vulnerable child.

Everybody -

Let people express an emotive/empathic reponse to this horrendous situation if they so wish. This thread should be more about sharing the pain than anything else. We can't keep repeating in cats bum mouth fashion - that we hope things are resolved and those responsible are brought to account. We are PASSIONATE about our kids - and all kids in general - this situation stirs up passion and confronts our worst fears. We are not one dimensional people - we may wish to respond on many levels.

I'm sure police being human would be tempted in this situation to bend the rules if tehy believe the have the guilty perosn in custody, but they have to be mindful of vultures lawyers who will look for any error or inrregularity in process to escaped a conviction in the evnt of a charge. Agree about the police following the suspect him before arrest - maybe they did! But then, if they had followed him for longer did there would a vast outcry about not apprehending a suspect sooner...

"What i don't understand is the vehicle they showed was different to the one reported."

That is also something that doesn't make sense, does it? I thought this as well. Something's not adding up.

...and fucking torture the truth out of him.

Are you fucking bonkers? That would be incredibly unhelpful; the man might be innocent!

He might 'confess' to something he didn't do in order to get the torture to stop. How would that help??

But, I suppose in the world of frenzied Facebollocks 'likes' it would be a very popular thing to say.

Don't confuse emotive/empathic with the quite simple 'thick'.

Lets hope there's a vulture lawyers prepared to assist when someone decides to torture you into confessing to something mrsalvo.

God the Daily Mail has a lot to answer for.

Shelly - I am expressing an empathic resonse if that is OK with you! And try not to be so insulting - peoples' emotions run high on a subject like this and they have a right to express it without being shot down in flames.

This thread could do with less arguing and more sharing of PAIN.

Yes, agree with Animation, the only thing that matters is that she is found

I'm sure the police are privy to information that we are not aware of. Perhaps the suspect changed cars or perhaps the witness was very vague about the vehicle. The police have stressed that they are pursuing other lines of inquiry. They released the suspects name for a reason. We have to presume that the police are doing their jobs properly, we have no reason to suspect otherwise.

How would you react if this was happening to you and a man had been in custody for this lenght of time?

Do you think you'd be rational and mild mannered about it all?

I wouldn't.

What are you all on about? It's not 'having a cat's bum face' to want not to torture someone in custody. If he is guilty he his our best chance of finding her, and the interviews will need to be performed by very skilled officers, not a gang of meat head vigilantes. Give the police some credit will you?

As for his solicitor, I'm absolutely certain he will be advising him that if he knows something that will help find her he should speak up. That would be in his best interests.

Sorry for the few mixed up words there

To Chub.

If this was my child I wouldn't be rational and mild mannered no. But fortunately we have the rule of law in this country, not the baying mob in charge.

Don't know about baying mob but I would be a baying mother.

I can't perceive how frustrating and devastating this must feel for them.

poor, poor girl. poor, poor parents.
No words for whoever DID this.

Err... Chub, I did not advocate torture - think you are mixing me up with someone else

Don't watch Sky News then.