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Coalition strategy to boost economy is having opposite effect, thinktank warns

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ttosca · 23/07/2012 09:45

IPPR report urges temporary tax cuts and spending on infrastructure to boost investment from the private sector

The coalition government's economic strategy, intended to boost confidence and encourage investment, is having the opposite effect by deterring spending, a thinktank warned on Monday.

The sluggish recovery from recession will see the UK's long-term GDP growth rate drop to just 1.7% by 2015 ? its lowest level since the second world war and the equivalent of £165bn in lost output over 15 years ? according to the Institute for Public Policy Research (IPPR).

The report may well provide more food for thought for the chancellor, George Osborne, in advance of Wednesday's GDP figures which will show whether Britain lifted itself out of double-dip recession in the second quarter of 2012.

At the weekend, Boris Johnson, the mayor of London, urged greater emphasis on growth and appeared to contradict David Cameron's warning that the crisis in the eurozone could last up to eight years.

The International Monetary Fund has downgraded its forecast for UK growth to just 0.2% in 2012 and 1.4% in 2013.

The thinktank said that there needs to be a change in fiscal policy, featuring temporary tax cuts, additional infrastructure spending and further quantitative easing to boost demand and bolster anaemic investment from the private sector.

A two-year 2p cut in National Insurance would inject £14bn into the economy and could be paid for by the introduction at a later date of a permanent mansion tax on homes worth more than £2m, recommended the report. And the government could take advantage of historically low interest rates by borrowing £30bn for investment in infrastructure at a cost of just £150 million a year.

Using official statistics and Office for Budget Responsibility forecasts, the report calculated that by 2015 average growth over a 15-year period will have declined to 1.7%, compared to a historic average of 2.4% and a peak of almost 3.5% in the middle of the last decade.

The report called on Osborne to ditch his plans to eliminate the national deficit within five years, and be prepared instead to increase borrowing in the short term and spread deficit reduction over a longer period.

Rather than creating a favourable environment for business investment, as the chancellor claims, the IPPR said that the government's austerity measures have made companies and individuals reluctant to spend because of uncertainty about the future.

The thinktank's chief economist, Tony Dolphin, said: "The government should implement temporary tax cuts and a boost to infrastructure spending not offset by cuts elsewhere. This would mean borrowing more in the short term.

"Fears that more quantitative easing would increase the risk of higher inflation in coming years are misplaced. Inflation pressures in the UK in recent years have been imported and are largely the result of high commodity prices.

"Domestic inflation pressures, for example, wage growth, have been very low and this is likely to remain the case while there is a good deal of spare capacity in the economy. The time to worry about inflation is after the economy is restored to growth, not before," he said.

The report also called for a Jobs Guarantee of work at minimum wage levels for anyone unemployed for more than 12 months, at a cost of up to £2.5 billion a year, in order to boost demand and stop people dropping out of the labour market altogether.

Johnson urged greater investment in the economy and the encouragement of large capital projects to get the economy moving.

"I am worried that people are losing confidence and losing enthusiasm ... We need a more aggressive plan for more infrastructure," he told the Andrew Marr Show on Sunday.

He added: "There is a danger in overdoing the gloom. I don't think that this will go on for another eight years."

A Treasury spokesman said: "Tough decisions taken by the government on fiscal policy have created the space to support the economy through monetary activism, such as quantitative easing, and has also established credibility that has enabled firms and households to benefit from low interest rates.

"The government continues to look for ways to use this hard won credibility to support the economy, as seen in the recent announcements of the Funding for Lending Scheme and using guarantees to help investment in infrastructure, as it protects the UK economy from the ongoing uncertainty and instability in the eurozone."

www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jul/23/thinktank-questions-coalition-fiscal-strategy

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claig · 23/07/2012 10:41

What type of thinktank is this? Is it a progressive one, New Labour leaning one?

'The IPPR (Institute for Public Policy Research) is a thinktank based in the UK. It produces research and policy ideas committed to upholding values of social justice, democratic reform and environmental sustainability.

It was founded in 1988. The founding director was James Cornford.[1] ] The current director is Nick Pearce [1], a former Head of the No. 10 Policy Unit and special advisor to David Blunkett MP. Former members of staff include the current pensions minister Liberal Democrat MP Steve Webb and former Labour cabinet ministers Patricia Hewitt and David Miliband.'

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_for_Public_Policy_Research

ttosca · 23/07/2012 11:31

It produces research and policy ideas committed to upholding values of social justice, democratic reform and environmental sustainability.

The horrors!

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claig · 23/07/2012 11:51

The spin!

ttosca · 23/07/2012 12:03

Except that it's quite consistent with the analysis of many other economists, think tanks, and pro-Capitalist bodies like the IMF.

The sluggish recovery from recession will see the UK's long-term GDP growth rate drop to just 1.7% by 2015 ? its lowest level since the second world war and the equivalent of £165bn in lost output over 15 years ? according to the Institute for Public Policy Research (IPPR).

Is this true or false? Do you want to look it up?

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claig · 23/07/2012 12:05

'according to the Institute for Public Policy Research'

claig · 23/07/2012 12:06

'Is this true or false?'

I don't know, it is 'according' to the IPPR

ttosca · 23/07/2012 12:08

Um, yes, that's why I asked you to find out... you know... do some research.

It may be false - who knows?

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 23/07/2012 12:38

So what would you do?

claig · 23/07/2012 13:01

I agree with the IPPR's call for tax cuts and more infrastructure spending. Boris is also calling for an emphasis on growth.

www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jobs/9418759/Tip-billions-more-into-economy-says-Boris-Johnson-in-George-Osborne-rebuke.html

teretta · 23/07/2012 13:56

The Government should abolish employers national insurance and vastly reduce corporation tax, give companies incentives to take extra workers on and invest in their respective sectors. Why we tax companies for employing people is lunacy and is particulary damaging in the current situation.

Solopower · 23/07/2012 18:06

No tax cuts. Stop tax avoidance/evasion.

Then decide how to divide all that money between the NHS, education and welfare, job creation, new infrastructure projects etc - just think what we could do with £13 trillion.

flatpackhamster · 23/07/2012 19:14

Solopower

No tax cuts. Stop tax avoidance/evasion.

Then decide how to divide all that money between the NHS, education and welfare, job creation, new infrastructure projects etc - just think what we could do with £13 trillion.

The UK's GDP is just over £1Trillion, so where does your £13Trillion per year tax recovery number come from?

JuliaScurr · 23/07/2012 19:23

blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/07/22/tax-justice-network-wealth-held-in-tax-havens-skyrockets/
From the well-known Trotskyite gazette, The Washington Post

AThingInYourLife · 23/07/2012 19:25

Yeah, the mad trots at the FT have been making this point for months.

pointythings · 23/07/2012 21:25

If even the IMF are having doubts about the coalitions's economic strategy then is is bloody worrying that there is no plan B...

flatpackhamster · 24/07/2012 07:25

JuliaScurr

^blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/07/22/tax-justice-network-wealth-held-in-tax-havens-skyrockets/^

So that's GLOBALLY, not in the UK. So "we" wouldn't be able to 'divide' that money up at all, would 'we'.

From the well-known Trotskyite gazette, The Washington Post

You do understand what a newspaper is, don't you? It reports stories. The Washington Post is just reporting on a story of some magic numbers made up by some socialists.

Solopower · 24/07/2012 08:40

OK Flatpack, maybe not all the £13 trillion is ours to divvie up.

But you get the idea, don't you? It's called working together for the common good. paying your dues. Society. Even 'big' society if you want.

flatpackhamster · 24/07/2012 12:21

Solopower

OK Flatpack, maybe not all the £13 trillion is ours to divvie up.

But you don't know how much is. So the figure could be tiny or colossal. We've no way of knowing. I don't think the "Tax Justice Network" knows either, because those figures are US ones, and they may not apply to the EU or the UK.

Putting aside the fact that the figures quoted aren't based in reality, how do you plan to collect this money? What're you going to do to force rich people to hand over their money? If that money was easily accessible, then it would have been taken by governments by now. So it isn't easy. And the owners aren't doing anything illegal by having it.

I don't understand for a minute how you're going to get your hands on this cash.

But you get the idea, don't you? It's called working together for the common good. paying your dues. Society. Even 'big' society if you want.

I get the idea. I can see now that the answer when we're spending more than we take in taxes isn't to cut spending so that we aren't putting ourselves in to debt. What we can do is rummage down the back of the sofa for some small change, borrow some from a mate, pawn off the wedding ring, maybe even consolidate our debts in to one easy-to-understand monthly repayment.

This isn't about the common good. It's about socialists taking money from people to pay for things that socialists like. It's not for the common good.

niceguy2 · 24/07/2012 12:41

I have a question. Is there any suggestion that this $12 trillion or whatever was earned illegally or was somehow laundered out to the tax havens?

Because whilst it is an eye watering amount of money, we have to bear in mind that assuming that this money has been earned and the correct tax paid then the owner can do what they like with it.

So if I had a million quid after I paid the taxes due whilst I earned it, then surely it's entirely up to me what I do with the cash. If I choose to move it offshore into some cayman island account, why should I not be allowed to? Why should I leave my money in a UK account and get continually told I should pay more taxes until I have none left?

And let's say we somehow reappropriated 'our share' of this $12 trillion. Whatever 'our' share of the money we didn't earn was...... Isn't that a very dangerous precedent to set? What next? The $12 trillion is gone & spent so now let's go after those with £50k savings....those rich bastards....or £10k.....pfft, capitalist filth. Won't someone think of the starving children.....

Solopower · 24/07/2012 12:45

Flatpack, you are right, as far as I am concerned, this is definitely 'about socialists taking money from people to pay for things that socialists like'.

What are the things that socialists like? More equal distribution of wealth. Good housing, schools, hospitals for all. Self-respect. Fair play. United we stand, divided we fall. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

Of course we all need to pay our debts. Including the tax-evaders.

Solopower · 24/07/2012 12:51

Capitalists and socialists want the same things, don't we? To raise the standard of living for everyone; more money for all.

Capitalists think that if one person gets rich, that automatically trickles down because s/he provides jobs, pays taxes etc. Unfortunately we have seen that doesn't happen because as each entrepreneur becomes bigger, they also become international and the jobs they provide are not necessarily local. And they avoid paying their taxes.

Socialists believe that they should be made to pay their taxes.

niceguy2 · 24/07/2012 13:50

So that entrepreneur is now creating lots of jobs all over the world. Thanks to globalisation there are literally billions of people in gainful employment all over the world.

Solopower · 24/07/2012 13:59

True. Just not here.

There's not way of proving this, but I think that the big companies, especially if they don't pay taxes, take more from us than they give to us. The reason I think this is that they are rich and we aren't.

I'm not an economist, as you can see.

niceguy2 · 24/07/2012 14:43

I completely disagree Solo and your views are typical of many whom I don't think see the bigger picture.

Multinational companies have grown to such a size because they offer goods & services which a lot of people wish to pay money for. As a result lots of people get jobs out of which they pay taxes to the state for.

To then pillory a successful company because they've decided not to invest in 'our' country because of our punitive tax regimes or because another country is offering them a better deal is simply nonsense.

Put it another way. If there are two TV's, the one £200 cheaper is made in China compared to one made in the UK, is my behaviour morally reprehensible and unpatriotic for buying the Chinese TV?

If a large company comes to the UK and creates 10,000 jobs, that's an awful amount of extra tax coming into the treasury and a lot of positive impact on the economy.

What we need is to lower corporate taxes and provide long term incentives for large companies to come set up in the UK.

Solopower · 24/07/2012 15:25

Well there you are. I think we already provide enough incentives for large companies, and would like them to pay more for the privileges of operating here in our relatively peaceful country.

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