Children banned from streets of Bangor at night

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-18469957

The dispersal order says: "If you are under 16 you are not allowed to be here between the hours of 9pm and 6am unless you are under the effective control of a parent or responsible person over the age of 18.

"You may be removed to your home or place of safety if more appropriate."

It will remain in place for six months in a bid to help tackle anti-social behaviour such as groups congregating to drink or members of the public being "harassed, intimidated, alarmed or distressed".

Officers will also be able to order groups of two or more people to disperse.

I understood what you meant ethelb.

@purity I hope you are embarrassed now you have been shown up
Mn could you please reinstate my post or explain why it was deleted in the first place? I'm quite upset at being accused of racism. It's not like I have a history of anything bigoted in my posts is it!

These orders are used in the areas that have the nightclubs and pubs and are high drug areas.

We have them across my city, Liverpool and it also protects vulnerable children who are left to roam by their parents.

They are not looking to target young people returning from an activity, but more the groups of school children that are seen heading to town as it gets late, usually around 9pm, some from the age of 9.

Unless these orders are inplace the police do not have powers to return them home. Because threseholds on Child Protection have increased they will now only leave them at home if an adult is present.

This will stop neglectful parents from giving their children money and not care where they are, as long as the parents can spend the night in the pub, or in some cases out committing crimes/prostitution.

The case in Rochdale of young girls being groomed isn't rare, they just don't often reach court, these orders protect everyone.

This is a 9pm curfew for children under 16.

How sad.

Sad, but perhaps necessary, not just because younger teens do seem able to get drink and be obnoxious in groups, but as Birdsgottafly indicates, for the safety of those who are more vulnerable.

If it saves a half dozen from getting drink or drugs, or into fights or being abducted, then it is a good thing. Good parents care what their DC are up to, but clearly bad parents don't give a damn, and if younger teens can be taken home because they are likely to get into trouble, all power to the coppers.

I bet they don't "round up" all youngsters. For the coppers it will be a "last resort" when they see trouble kicking off, as they will prefer to not do the "have a chat with parents" and driving round to drop various youngsters home, let alone the "take them somewhere safe" if the parents are not home (and paperwork to follow up on those parents, then, too).

Yes, a bit of liberty infringement, but I bet there are parts of Cornwall and Devon where rich teens off for a few weeks with their friends and getting more than just tipsy every night will also come under similar scrutiny.

Oh jesus @networkguy refer to my earlier comment. There are many groups who cause crime who aren't exposed to group punishment by the state. This us just the police winging rather than just doing the work required to crack down on the few guts. Really lazy use if taxpayers money.

Who says there will be "group punishment" ?

Wait for it to be reported before you complain !

It's just a tool, and makes action an option not standard !

ps "@" is superfluous

Are the posters that are complaining about this aware of how many young men are the victims of serious assaults and stabbings?

This protects the people that they are dispersing, who being children do not have the sense that things are getting out of hand, or protects the person that may be being bullied.

I live in Liverpool, but camp in Wales a lot and Bangor is getting out of hand at night, as Rhyl did and is being flooded with drugs.

These orders are not used in my city (we have had them for years) on kids going out and about, just those at risk/posing a risk. They have made some areas safer and need extending.

A curfew is not optional it is a curfew. Action is an option now so why are they nit just doing that.

I lived in Bangor for a number of years, and still have good friends living in the city.

Bangor is populated by a group of NIMBYs who never tire of complaining about the behaviour of anyone under the age of 40. Students are too noisy, young people shouldn't be allowed out in town after a certain time.

There is not actually much of a problem with young people in Bangor town centre causing problems - there is in the housing estate to the east of the centre. But the curfew order doesn't cover MaesG. What it does mean is that those teens who meet up with friends to gasp SIT IN GROUPS, and ohthehorror WANT TO BE TOGETHER DOING SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T COST MONEY (like sitting in University Gardens), will now be able to be moved on. Because some of the incomers to the city feel threatened by groups of teenagers based on something they read in the Daily Mail.

It's even more ridiculous because the summer holidays are just around the corner, so kids are still subject to a state enforced bedtime.

Utterly stupid. I've been talking to people back there trying to organise a march of 16 and unders at 9.01pm one night.