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What does your newspaper say about you?

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Emmielu · 03/04/2012 19:43

Looking around on here & other forums its mainly the guardian that gets the best comments for great reads & correct info. Daily Mail however doesnt. But what do you think the paper you read says about you when you compare it on here? iykwim?

I read daily mail online & sky news online but by reading daily mail & comparing to what people think on here & other forums, i feel a little common or dumbed down lol!

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2old2beamum · 03/04/2012 20:34

Sorry wouldn't wipe my arse on the Daily Fail but a lot of my friends do but I can't be bothered to discuss politics with them. BTW I am a Guardian reader.
Not that my friends do use it as bum fodder they read it.

blighter · 03/04/2012 20:39

too many opinionated guardian readers on here ruling the roost...

Squeegle · 03/04/2012 20:48

Would only be seen reading the guardian. Completely agree with its stance.

Mind you, do read the daily fail on my iPhone. Don't agree with the politics, but do enjoy the gossip. Not much of that in the grauniad.

Am sad to recount that I do judge people on what I see them reading. I know you shouldn't but I do. That's why I would never read the daily fail in public. Someone might think I believed it.

blighter · 03/04/2012 20:49

funny, but i have a certain view of guardian readers and whilst they appear to be proud to be seen reading that paper, i think guardian readers seem to be very opinionated and quick to judge other people

2old2beamum · 03/04/2012 20:51

hang on one thing is I am not opinionated and certainly do not rule the roost I believe in justice for those who are unable to stick up for their rights and try not to be judgemental

2old2beamum · 03/04/2012 20:55

My philosophy is do not judge until you have walked in their shoes.

Petrean · 03/04/2012 20:55

I read the Metro.... What does that say about me? Uuummm I'm a commuter?

MissKeithLemon · 03/04/2012 20:59

No Petrean - it means you are a cheap commuter Wink

Petrean · 03/04/2012 21:00

Hah hah... Indeed I am! :)

Nancy66 · 03/04/2012 21:07

Half the people who claim to read The Guardian don't. When do you EVER see anybody reading The Guardian when you're out and about?

The Guardian sales are pitiful yet everyone on MN reads it. Weird.

Jajas · 03/04/2012 21:09

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claig · 03/04/2012 21:17

I read the 'Newspaper of the Year', which is also the world's leading online newspaper. I think this says that I have my finger on the pulse of discerning world opinion.

It is a paper that exposes the lies and hypocrisy of the spinners, weavers, climate catastrophe deceivers and global warming believers - it is, of course, the Daily Mail.

Emmielu · 04/04/2012 08:55

Why are people judged on what newspaper they read? I've always wondered that since joining MN.

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chipstick10 · 04/04/2012 09:16

The Guardian brings me out in hives, also resent the snobbery associated with it, i read THE SUN.

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usualsuspect · 04/04/2012 09:27

Another metro reader here, I never buy newspapers.

chipstick10 · 04/04/2012 09:35

To the best of my knowledge, the Mail online is one of the most read online of all the papers, hmm i wonder whose reading it!!!

AllShiney · 04/04/2012 09:40

Could someone do a breakdown of the different papers? i.e. what they are perceived to show about the reader or what they stand for in broad terms? I know about the daily fail but just curious about the others as I am usually oblivious to this kind of thing. I've often read certain papers stand for different politics etc but I'm not sure who or what.

I read the metro or sometimes the I paper as its cheap and I have little time to read papers :)

Nancy66 · 04/04/2012 09:48

the Mail online has a worldwide readership - but it's not really an online newspaper. there's a huge amount of content that is not published in the print version and it's much more steered towards celebrity - especially american as they have now opened NY and LA offices

Eggsits · 04/04/2012 09:53

Which newspaper you buy is used as one of the defining factors in demographics (I believe)

Heard the piece on R4 the other day about the Mail online opening offices in the USA and that it was very much steered towards celebrity culture.

I read The Daily Telegraph, which says practically everything about me Wink

Happydogsaddog · 04/04/2012 09:57

Im with allshiney we need a clear indication of how thick/impressive/snobby each paper will make us look.
I progressed from The Sun to the DM (quite a feat around here) then discovered on MN that's not the way forward at all. So what's the alternative, spend a small fortune and huge waste of time checking out all of the others?

slug · 04/04/2012 10:21

I get the guardian on my phone and will read the Indy and the Telegraph if they're at hand. My choice of paper has more to do with what I read the paper for. I get my news from the BBC, and read the Metro to blank out the hideousness of my morning commute. But when I read papers I read them for the comment and the analysis.

The Sun, Fail and Express have such a low reading age that they can't, within the confines of their format, offer anything more than the most basic analysis of current affairs, much less economics and politics. I find them too simplistic with no nuance. I may not agree with the viewpoints in the other papers, but at least they give me something to think about and, if inspired, read up further on.

BobblyGussets · 04/04/2012 10:27

The Guardian on Saturday. I also get the Daily Mirror to encourage my boy (nearly 9 and dyslexic) to read as he seems interested in the news stories, and it is well written.
I do snatch up the Daily Fascist when out in Starbucks, cos it does have mass appeal, but it is far too right wing for me and nasty about people. That isn't to say it is not interesting for a quick read, but I would never buy a copy.

The Metro sometimes too.

Imperfectionist · 04/04/2012 14:10

AllShiney, Here is a description of the UK newspapers (subjective of course, but isn't everything!). Over the years I have worked for the main UK tabloids and their websites, and other newspapers but today am a Guardian/UK broadsheet/BBC online reader, watch Channel 4 news. When I used to work in London newspapers I had to (skim) read all nine every morning so did get an overview.

To Nancy66; the Guardian sales are so low because everybody reads it online, for free. Of course that will lead to its downfall in the end. Tabloids not as affected by people reading them without paying for them as traditional market for them is people who like a 'hard' copy, although their online figures are high too. The Guardian's website is the second most read in the UK after the Daily Mail.

The Sunday Times and the Times of course has a paywall - £6 for a copy through your door every day, online access including to your mobile. £2 a week to have daily access to the websites.
Not bad really, and while sales have dropped it's working for them.

Phew, this took me a while, but I can actually use it for someone else - it's not Mumsnet, it's work-related, honest!

Dailies

Tabloids

The Sun (2,5 million)
Right of centre. Today are Tory supporting, but were massive backers of Labour for 10 years. Owned by Rupert Murdoch, who some say runs the world in a James Bond baddy style fashion. He certainly owns most of the world's media. Murdoch only backs winners, hence he backed Blair in 1997, 2001 and 2005 elections. They went off Brown though. Currently in deep trouble because of hacking/police bribing case. The stories are about 60% true.
Famously it is deeply unpopular in Liverpool after it ran stories the day after Hillsborough saying that Liverpool fans ran on the pitch and stole from the dead Sheffield fans and pissed on their bodies (all utterly untrue). Unsurprisingly, Liverpool has yet to forgive the Sun, despite the paper printing front-page apologies and staging many 'forgiveness stunts' in the city.

Average reading age to be able to digest the information provided on, say, page 3, is eight years old.
Oh yes, and it features porn on the first inside page, daily. It calls itself a 'family newspaper'.

Daily Mirror (1,1 million)
Left of centre, Labour supporting. Doesn't feature porn. If you're going to read a tabloid, this is the most acceptable of the lot. Stories probably 90% true.

Daily Star : 617,082
Porn and totally made-up. Owned by porn baron Richard Desmond (he really is). Nothing in here is more than 10% true (I know, I've worked there). Very very embarrassing to be seen with this.

Daily Express : 577,543
Tory supporting, although has supported Labour in the past. Also owned by porn baron Richard Desmond, sister paper to Daily Star. Not very legitimate paper. Obsessed with Princess Di, even now.

Daily Mail : 1.9 million
Right wing, very conservative (some would say it demonstrates the worst of conservative values). It is resolutely and cleverly aimed at women, and only UK newspaper with female readership of over 50%. During WWII it supported the fascists and the Nazis. However, it did one notably good act of journalism by naming and outing the Stephen Lawrence murderers in 1997, at risk of being held in contempt of court, which led to the two convictions. They need to do a lot more journalism in that vein to redeem themselves in my view, however.

The Metro: 1.3 million, read by 3.5 million (each copy read 3 times, if you leave it nicely folded on your bus seat!)
Owned by the Daily Mail, freebie for commuters, designed to be read in 20 minutes. Pro-conservative, right of centre.
The news stories are either shortened ones from the Mail, or just taken from the news agencies (Reuters, AP, AFP), so generally not original stuff. They do good what's-on listings, reviews, and that sort of thing, if I remember correctly, but it's not a reliable news source, and don't forget you are indirectly being fed the Daily Mail...

Daily Record : 291,825
Scottish, owned by the Mirror Group.

Broadsheets

The Daily Telegraph: 578,774
Tory supporting, right of centre, nicknamed the 'Torygraph'.

Actually well-respected especially for its great journalistic investigations such as the MPs expenses scandal (at which it socked it to the Tories as much, as Labour), was voted Newspaper of the Year in 2010.

Financial Times : 316,493
'The Pink Paper'. Mainly financial, business and politics news but does cover culture, features and some lifestyle.
Backed the Tories in the 80s, backed Labour under Blair, generally fairly middle ground, although a recent poll showed most its readers are Tory voters. Probably cos they're rich (their glossy magazine supplement is called 'How to Spend It').

The Guardian : 215,988
Left-leaning but mainstream, traditionally Labour supporting, though wasn't keen on Gordon Brown. Urged readers to vote Lib Dem as a tactical vote in last election, probably regrets that now. Voted National Newspaper of the Year in 1999, 2006 and 2011. Really good at investigative journalism, most recently the Leveson inquiry into News of the World and The Sun's hacking and police-bribery. No porn, but great lifestyle articles and 'Woman' section. Excellent columnists including Charlie Brooker, Hadley Freeman, Mariella Frostrop and more.
The Guardian Online Website gets 39 million unique users per month.
Sister paper is the Observer (on Sunday)

The Independent : 105,160
Centre-left but doesn't usually support just one political party, hence its name. Is usually reliably independent, and classically liberal, pro-capitalism. Sometimes more issue-led than news, with its one-topic front pages. Doesn't have much money compared to the other papers, so suffers from a shortage of staff, although a rich Russian bought it in 2010. Last summer it was the only British paper to have increased its circulation in 12 months, though it seems to have dipped again now. Traditionally avoids publishing any news about the royal family.

i : 264,432 - this is the independent's little sister paper, a condensed version, designed to offer a lighter read and boost circulation, which it does.

The Times: 397,549
Supported Labour in 2001 for the first time ever and again in 2005, but usually a Tory paper, although moderate, not as right-wing as The Mail and The Telegraph. Rupert Murdoch owned, from same stable as The Sun, News of the World (wot was), Sunday Times of course. All written, published in the same building in Wapping, London. It's about 300 years old and calls itself 'UK Paper of Record'. Fairly well regarded, good journalists working on it.

Sundays

Tabloids

Daily Star Sunday : 599,078
The Sun (Sunday) : 3,213,613
Sunday Mail : 376,898
Sunday Mirror : 1,594,293
The People : 701,246
Sunday Express : 567,800
Sunday Post : 291,623
The Mail on Sunday : 1,882,469

Broadsheets

Independent on Sunday : 124,260
The Observer : 253,022
Scotland on Sunday : 46,964
Sunday Herald : 30,771
The Sunday Telegraph : 461,280
The Sunday Times : 939,395

The source for weekly circulation figures, as has been for decades, is ABC via the Press Gazette.

dapplegrey · 04/04/2012 14:28

@imperfectionist - are you sure the Daily Mail supported fascism and the Nazis during WWII?
I think it is unlikely they actually supported the enemy during the war.
I thought they were initially supportive of fascism and Oswald Mosley but then backed down after pressure from Jewish groups.