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Cruise ship run aground in Italy

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MrsSnaplegs · 14/01/2012 06:46

* Cruise ship runs aground in Italy *
More than 4,000 people are being evacuated after the cruise ship Costa Concordia ran aground off Italy, with at least six reported dead.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16558910
Looks horrendous - live photos show it almost horizontal

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tribpot · 14/01/2012 07:08

Looks very frightening, and yes, it looks like the webcam photos from this morning show the ship completely on its side in the water :(

I hope if any MNers have family on board they soon get confirmation they are okay.

MrsSnaplegs · 14/01/2012 07:24

Yes very scary - hoping anyone with friends and family on board gets news they are safeSmile

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mumto2andnomore · 14/01/2012 09:08

just been watching thisn the news, my heart goes out to everyone involved

SardineQueen · 14/01/2012 09:20

Really shocking, I hope that they have managed to get everybody off there.

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SardineQueen · 14/01/2012 09:39

I hate it when they do that, and they always do, across the whole press, as if British people are more important than anyone else Angry

MollieO · 14/01/2012 13:45

I'm frankly amazed that it managed to run aground at all. Dreadful incident and the evacuation sounds chaotic. 3 people dead and at least 50 missing. There will be a full investigation and, knowing how things work in Italy, it wouldn't surprise me if there are criminal proceedings against the master. Clearly whomever was on watch was not paying attention. Inexcusable.

MollieO · 14/01/2012 13:55

This is the report from Lloyds List, which is a shipping newspaper and would be the most accurate report available. It states that 77 people are missing. The report on the BBC that the passenger list may not be up to date is not correct. Sad

Costa Concordia

Coastguard tells Lloyd?s List there is a 40m hole in the hull of Costa Concordia, now listing 80 degrees

CLOSE to 80 people are still missing and three are confirmed dead after the Italian cruiseship Costa Concordia ran aground overnight off the Italian coast.

Italian coastguard officials have told Lloyd?s List that while the search and rescue operation is still underway at least 77 people are currently unaccounted for.

A total of 4231 people, including 1,023 crewmembers, were on board the 2006-built, 114,147gt Costa Cruises owned vessel when it is thought to have hit a sandbar near the island of Giglio at around 21:30 hours local time on Saturday.

The Rina-classed vessel is reportedly taking on water and is currently lying with an 80 degree list. Coast guard officials have confirmed that there is a 40m hole in the hull of the vessel.

?At the moment we cannot make any declaration about the causes of the accident,? a coastguard official told Lloyd?s List earlier this afternoon. ?The prosecutor is already leading the criminal investigation and a technical inquiry, carried out by the Italian coast guard, now on the scene, is on-going?.

The coast guard of Livorno is leading the rescue operation.

A statement issued by Costa Cruises said it could not yet say what had caused the accident, however newswire reports citing rescued passengers suggest that the vessel hit an obstacle.

?The gradual listing of the ship made the evacuation extremely difficult,? the statement said. ?The position of the ship, which is worsening, is making more difficult the last part of the evacuation.

?We?d like to express our deepest gratitude to the coastguard and other emergency services, including the authorities and citizens of the island of Giglio, who did their best in saving and helping the passengers and crew.?

Classification society Rina issued a statement Saturday afternoon confirming that the ?Costa Concordia is certified to the highest safety standards by the Italian Administration and Rina in accordance with all applicable international conventions and regulations. All periodic surveys due during 2011 were carried out in accordance with the rule deadlines and with a positive outcome.?

Rina confirmed that it was providing ?full assistance to the owner and administration as they work to resolve the situation?.

Costa Cruises has confirmed about 1,000 Italian passengers were onboard the vessel, as well as more than 500 Germans, about 160 French and about 1,000 crew members.

According to the vessel?s statutory safety passenger certificate, Costa Concordia was built with a maximum passenger capacity of 4890 people.

The Costa Concordia was sailing across the Mediterranean Sea, starting from Civitavecchia with scheduled calls to Savona, Marseille, Barcelona, Palma de Mallorca, Cagliari and Palermo.

mousyMouse · 14/01/2012 20:44

what a nightmare for all on board.
hope (most of) the missing persons are alive and well. my thoughts are with those affected by this.

MollieO · 14/01/2012 20:53

They have divers searching the ship. Really hope that those missing survivors are safely on dry land.

VivaLeBeaver · 14/01/2012 21:05

I would hope that in the confusion most of those 77 people made it safely ashore but just haven't had their names ticked off a list yet?

clam · 14/01/2012 21:13

My parents are on a cruise going through the Mediterranean at the moment. My heart stopped when I read this headline. Fortunately, they're on the Arcadia, not this one.
Hope they account for these missing people soon.

MollieO · 14/01/2012 21:13

La Repubblica (Italian newspaper) says 40 are still missing. I hope it is just a case of not being added to a list but it is more than 24 hours since the accident and that is a long time to be missing on such a small island.

The ship's master said the ship hit a rock that wasn't on the chart. However I'd query why no one was paying attention to the radar. There is a mention of a power failure but the ship would have had emergency generators so I'd be amazed if the power failure affected those too. Again according to La Repubblica this ship does this trip 52 times a year so I wonder if complacency may be part of the reason.

There will be a detailed investigation - state prosecutor, ship's flag state, classification society, hull and machinery insurers - so they should get to the bottom of what happened. Costa is owned by Carnival which is a huge US cruise line so I'd expect litigation in the US too.

VivaLeBeaver · 14/01/2012 21:18

People were taken off the island by ferry and helicopter to the mainland very quickly. Many of those may well have decided just to make their own way home/get friends to pick them up without reporting in. Especially if they were Italian.

VivaLeBeaver · 14/01/2012 21:18

The news tonight says the ship was 4 miles off course. You can see from where it was that it seems far too close to teh island for such a large ship.

MollieO · 14/01/2012 21:26

It sailed closer to the shore once the hull was holed. The master thought that it was better to get closer to shore but of course a ship that size needs a reasonably deep draft to stay afloat. He would have been better staying near where the accident happened. I think it is extremely odd there was no Mayday call at the time the vessel was holed. They must have known what had happened.

Viva I'd be very surprised if that happened. Once the passengers had been evacuated to the mainland they would not have been allowed to just leave without having medical checks and details taken. Just wouldn't happen.

RabidEchidna · 16/01/2012 11:34

News today is blaming the captain,

Shocking in this day and age this could happen

NoMoreInsomnia12 · 16/01/2012 13:13

It really annoys me how the cruise company is automatically pointing the finger at the captain. What about a full enquiry before you decide who is to blame?

mousyMouse · 16/01/2012 13:17

well, the captain gets a lot of money for being responsible.

MoreBeta · 16/01/2012 13:17

The ship's black box data recorder is only being analyzed today by the Italian authorities so I have no idea how the company knows the ship was off course.

Maybe they are looking at transponder data but still, I think it is premature of anyone to start saying what happened here before the black box has been analyzed.

stubbornstains · 16/01/2012 13:35

Ships' captains get paid peanuts compared to, for example, airline pilots.

Just been listening to Jezza Vine on the subject, and people have been calling in saying that they had previously cruised on the Costa Concordia, and it had always been badly run and shambolic.

It's amazing how often one ship can foster a really bad organisational and safety culture for years. I remember telling an ex (ship's captain) about a Lloyds cargo ship running aground in the middle of the channel, and he was able to correctly guess the actual ship in question, having seen it screwing up and behaving bizarrely in various corners of the globe for years previously.

I'm surprised how few people have mentioned the accident happening on Friday 13th, I really am!

sailorsgal · 16/01/2012 13:40

I think you would be surprised at the difference in salary from an airline pilot for a ships captain.

It doesn't seem natural for something so big to be on the open ocean. Those poor people must have been terrified.

My son asked me if that could happen to daddys ship and can daddy swim. Sad

NoMoreInsomnia12 · 16/01/2012 13:42

I just think it would be rather inconvenient for the company and industry if it were a design flaw. Much easier to point the finger at the crew. Makes me suspicious that they already have without all the information.

MoreBeta · 16/01/2012 13:54

The one big design fault I always think about those ships is the slab sided design and their height makes lowering the lifeboats really difficult as has been proved here once the ship starts to list.

The lifeboat/safety cells for the crew that are on oil tankers and other cargo ships are generally on ramps hanging over the stern and they just release the shackles and then they automaticaly slip off the ship under their own weight so they are far easier and quicker to launch.

RabidEchidna · 16/01/2012 13:57

They were talking about it on this morning and the reporter was saying how expensive it is going to be to salvage, and that a billion pounds had been wiped off the company stock... for Gods sake people have died family's have lost love ones and you can not put a price on a life