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tortoiseshell · 02/12/2005 13:06

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moondog · 05/12/2005 17:51

Good point racers.
Barking that such proactive measures are considered evidence of a conspiracy eh???

blueshoes · 05/12/2005 19:40

John O'Farrell just sounds like a grumpy old man. I live (for my sins) in London - the idea of a free range child is not wise in this environment.

moondog · 05/12/2005 22:15

I read a particularly weak novel by O'Farrell once.
Unsurprisingly,its title escapes me.

feastofsteven · 05/12/2005 22:17

was it "The Best A Man can Get" by any chance, Moondog. I have a feeling it was about a man with a secret life/flat etc to get away from responsibilities of parenting?

moondog · 05/12/2005 22:19

Oh yeah that was it.
Shite..pile of poo.

feastofsteven · 05/12/2005 22:19

was underwhelmed by it myself.

moondog · 05/12/2005 22:21

lol
Who are you usually btw?

feastofsteven · 05/12/2005 22:22

mummytosteven.

Caligyulea · 05/12/2005 22:26

I have a vague feeling that Frank Furedi may once have been a member of the Revolutionary Communist Party. He was certainly associated with Living Marxism, their marvellously entertaining magazine. Bizarre little group, so left-wing that they're on the right.

moondog · 05/12/2005 22:34

Blimey.
Can see your reasoning.
Having lived in Russia,I view the gradual takeover of the world by Tesco as not dissimilar to the state of affairs in the USSR circa 1964.

Caligyulea · 05/12/2005 22:36

But better food, surely Moondog!

Caligyulea · 05/12/2005 22:38

Claire Fox was involved in it as well. She now is permanently on the moral maze promoting the most libertarian viewpoint on whatever issue of the moment.

moondog · 05/12/2005 22:38

God,everything from Tesco is dispiriting and tasteless.
Bleeeurrgghhhhh!

Caligyulea · 05/12/2005 22:42

I knew you were going to say that!!

moondog · 05/12/2005 22:45

I really mean it-I'm not trying to be a smartarse!
There's just no fucking joy in it-any of it.

bossykate · 05/12/2005 22:47

claire fox now runs something called the "institute of ideas" - they run a lot of panel type discussions. i saw furedi speak at one once - in his pre paranoid parenting days.

john o'farrell does have children. he lives near me and is active in the local campaign to get another secondary school in the area.

monkeytrousers · 06/12/2005 08:36

I once lived in a place (In the UK) that got it's macdonalds franchise only after Moscow. That's when you know you have to get out!!

bobbybob · 07/12/2005 03:37

I love the comment which says

"every piece of play equipment was surrounded by a concrete apron and you had to be really careful when you rode your bike down the slide."

Much funnier than the actual article - they should give that man a job.

I also watched lots of TV - that's how stimulated I was by boredom.

moondog · 07/12/2005 09:32

Monkey,that's why I approve of Van in Turkey (where we live).
Despite it having over a million people,there is no Burger King,Macdonalds and so on.

Where did my Kurdish guest slope off to for lunch nearly every day when she was here for lunch??

The above.....

beejay · 07/12/2005 10:12

Have long-held suspicions about Furedi too, very dodgy imho

bEATieDRINKandbeMERRY · 07/12/2005 13:01

Surely children can learn to become independent adults without having to be exposed to dangers (I?m thinking mostly of traffic here) Traffic has increased massively since the 1960s/70s Does Mr O?Farrell have some evidence to prove that not allowing children out to play all day and not letting them hurt themselves in the play park is actually detrimental to our children?s development?

.Children are capable of hurting themselves in the simplest of settings because children are naturally exuberant, clumsy, enjoy fooling around, tend to have their mind on other things. Children have a lot of accidents. I don?t see why it?s a problem to help to prevent these accidents I.e. the wood chippings that are laid down in play parks instead of concrete.

We put stair gates up to stop DD falling down the stairs. She didn?t need to fall down the stairs to learn about the danger of falling down the stairs, she just got to an age where certain capabilities kicked in and she knows to take care and is able to take care.

I don?t see why a child needs to get hurt to learn that they need to take care in a situation. They?re capable of learning and knowing that the whole world is not made of wood chippings to cushion their fall!

People sometimes ascribe too much nostalgia to their 1970s childhood. Our children will have their own nostalgia to recall. Our children will likely look back on ball pits nostalgically and view the idea of concrete play parks like we now view not using a seatbelt in a car. Anyway, the filth of ball pits are a useful way to counterbalance all that anti-bacterial spray.

I was a 70s child and I remember being let out to play for an afternoon or morning without having to ?check in? with mum but I also remember family walks to the countryside, beach or swimming pool, reading at home in my room, playing in the back garden with my friends. I also remember breaching the freedoms I was allowed on many an occasion. Give a child an inch and they take a mile. This ?freedom? of the 70s child we speak of is just one element of our childhood and I don?t believe it is necessary to ?set-free? your school aged child to help them grow into independent responsible adults.

I do however agree that children should not be molly-coddled but to me that is not about letting them play with the traffic it is about letting them get dirty and expecting them to do up their own coat

motherinfurrierfestivehat · 07/12/2005 13:06

Yep, Furedi definitely one of the Living Marxism lot, who had really quite nasty aspects.

I was peculiarly protected as a child and not allowed to cross the road on my own till I was about 10, so I can't comment on the broader issue.

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