Cameron gets blazed by furious surgeon YEAH!

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13771099

This is so funny!

We'll have to agree to disagree on that one laiyan , all I could see was a fabulously ignorant, rude surgeon the likes of which I have seen many times before. (I used to be a Sister on an Orthopaedic ward and then I became an Infection Control Nurse)

The "bare below the elbows" policy applies to any member of staff involved in direct clinical care and as far as I could see the camera crew were not involved in clinical care. It would have been good practice to have asked them all to amend there dress the same but an over reaction like that was not called for.

Although I can see your point about it going viral - how embarrassing for him.

Pretty sure please could you roll up your sleeves to help keep infection levels down would have done the job.
And if he wanted to have a go at Cameron all he did was make himself look like a dick because Cameron did have his sleeves rolled

He could have made his point a lot more politely and in a much more considered way but overall, I really respect that fact that he had the guts to say something. It is very hard to stick your neck out in this sort of situation and I think it was a point well worth making.

David Cameron, Nick Clegg and their staff and camera crew are using a clinical area for a photo opportunity to promote themselves and their policies. They are in a busy, working hospital and should be expected to respect this fact. There are so many people bending over backwards to accommodate these people simply because they are positions of power. We don't know what discussions had taken place prior to the visit of the PM. It may have been agreed that the infection control policy would be adhered to by Mr C and his team and then it was flouted on the day. The surgeon probably exhibited his frustration not only with this but also with the utter hypocrisy in the NHS and in politics in general.

Mcdreamy- as far as I'm aware, the infection control policies apply to ALL staff within a clinical area.

Yes you are correct Looby - all staff, not visitors. I am sure the ICT were involved in the visit and gave advice as to who needed to wear what.

I think he saw his chance to inconvenience Cameron and took it.

Probably also asserting that it was his territory in a rather ostentatious way.

Even though I don't like our PM I do think the doctor went a bit over the top.

I expect it was just the last straw in a long day.

Also he was on shaky ground because last I looked not all staff must have bare arms to prevent infection. It depends on your religion.

Mcdreamy- I would extrapolate that rule to DC and his team. Obviously, they are not trust employees but they are presumably seeing more than one patient within the hospital are in proximity to them. If an Administrative member of staff or cleaner is made to roll up his/her sleeves when in a ward, these people should have too. I'm sure ICT would have been consulted as you say but, in my experience, most people involved in organising political/ royal visits will do everything in their power not to inconvenience these people without necessarily thinking things through adequately. The surgeon should have made his point more politely but I can totally understand his frustration.

FFS from my experience consultants are the worst for ignoring rules.