Girl stabbed in the head whilst queuing for lunch!

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Just seen this on the news. She was queuing for lunch when three other girls in her class stabbed her with scissors.

I think her cuts are superficial but still shocking. The school has a good reputation locally too.

Waiting for local news to find out more.

Well it is extraordinary isn't it. How did the attacker actually believe she would be dealt with, one wonders. Lines?

I bet she's absolutely incredulous that she's been arrested and is whingeing about how unfair it is. Which in a way, it is. Because if these children have been left with the impression that bad behaviour goes unpunished, it must seem quite random and arbitrary to them, when suddenly they are punished. Must look like we're all moving the goalposts.

so agree with you. They think they have a 'get out of jail free card'

One said to me last week 'I can't behave, I'm a teenager' WTF!

Bullying is a countrywide issue.

This is the very point which Mr Aynsley-Green (England's new Childrens Commissioner) passionately believes needs to be recognised and tackled. 'I have no doubt that children are being bought up in a society where violence is the norm,' he said.

'I include in this the violence on television, in the workplace and in the home. Violence is part of our contemporary culture, where it is so prevalent that it largely goes unremarked,' he added. 'My first plea in my new post is for adults to look in the mirror before they start castigating children for bullying behaviour.'

A report by the TUC last week supports his claims. The study called for tougher laws to protect staff from intimidation and punish bullies, with the union claiming that two million people were bullied at work over the past six months, often by managers.

Bullying, the report found, accounted for the loss of about 18 million working days each year, with employees going sick or changing jobs to escape humiliation. About 75 per cent of the bullying was perpetrated, researchers found, by managers or supervisors.

All opinions welcome!.

Meerkats

P.S I personally feel that many girls' are far more inclined nowadays to use physical force against their victims. It also seems to me that many school heads who say that bullying is not an issue etc are lying.

'I include in this the violence on television, in the workplace and in the home. Violence is part of our contemporary culture, where it is so prevalent that it largely goes unremarked,' he added. 'My first plea in my new post is for adults to look in the mirror before they start castigating children for bullying behaviour.'

How about the government do the same as they inflict the worst kind of violence and atrocities on foreign soil. On the double standards constantly at play within our own social systems. How about the media look in the mirror as it supports and disseminates this ideological state apparatus , all the time purporting to challenge it.

A bully is someone who attempts to get what they want by capitalizing on the weakness of another. Tell me how this differs from capitalism itself and if you can, tell me how one state capitalizing on the weakness of another is any different than an individual doing it in school?

Violence is part of our culture, but it's not television we need to worry about, after all, it's not real. Iraq, the third world, famine, war, terrorism, poverty, the fact that the majority of the worlds wealth is held by a tiny percentage of people, that's the real violence.

IMHO

Back with a bang, Monkeytrousers!

I think TV violence is an issue, actually, because TV is such an influential medium and we still don't know exactly what effect it has on us.

I was watching Coronation Street recently (how sad am I, all my social observations are based on Corrie) and it was high comedy, Cilla and Les's wedding. Cilla threw a brick through Tracey Barlow's window in order to get flowers for free.

Now in the real world, Tracey would have called the police. In Soap world, there are no consequences for such extreme behaviour - it is just presented as comedy. And unfortunately, there is a large number of people who really are quite stupid and get all their information about life from TV, tabloids, cheap celebrity gossip magazines, and what their equally uninformed friends tell them, and they aren't able to distinguish between fiction and reality. And I think those people (along with the very young who are not being guided) are quite vulnerable to the confusing messages a lot of TV programmes send out. (Which is why I get pedantically annoyed when soaps have storylines which ignore reality, but that's another thread!)

And I do think that TV series which show very bad behaviour going completely unnoticed, is quite insidious. I don't mean that all programmes ought to have an Enid Blyton righteous ending, where the goodies triumph and the baddies get their come-uppance (because in RL lots of baddies win all the time) but just that bad behaviour at least ought to be commented upon, so that viewers are not left with the impression that very bad behaviour is the norm.

lol Caligula!

I agree actually. Most of the messages coming out of television are very confusing because they are so couched and multi-layered - like you say, while simultaneously watching a hilarious pantomime in Corrie, you're also watching a latent narrative of irresponsibility and violent self-indulgence. It just slips in, there's no editorial, no comment, and it's everywhere on telly, it's omniscient. And unless you've been 'taught' to see it, it slips into your head and you've no idea it's even there. Violence, selfishness, greed, misogyny, all the deadly sins in fact (and that's just Hollyoaks ), all laying the seeds of insecurity, self doubt and self loathing for both sexes but especially for women, while the government (any government, all governments) preach 'morals' and inclusively without ever contexutalizing what they might actually mean by those terms as they know they stand directly at odds with the way capitalism works. And even they are in service to capitalism. We all have that in common, at least.

I mean I suspect programmes that are explicitly violent may be the least dodgy, as at least you can make some kind of informed decision whether to watch or not. The worst bit of coded misogyny I saw semi-recently was that ?If? series on the BBC. Did you watch it. It was full of Eve?s taking bites out of apples. Really crass obvious stuff, terribly executed. I was surprised there wasn?t more of an outcry about it at the time.

god yes Caligula - completely agree.

and what happened to the only high profile person who repeated this over and over again in public? those sophisticated people in the media used to laugh and sneer at her, and make her name a byword for prudery.

are you talking about mary whitehouse nightynight? Because i think she was much more caught up about sex than violence, wasn't she? [tho you might be thinking about someone else and i'm being thick!] I have NEVER understood why you never see full nudity on terrestial television - that would damage the minds of the young - whereas extreme violence is commonplace and accepted. I actually think this is the worst combination. in countries where sexually explicit [not violent] images are commonplace there is not a huge rise in any kind of sexual deviancy. The british have such a weird mental makeup, or the censors do at least.

I'm not sure Mary Whitehouse did just go on about sex, she was very anti-violence as well, but it was the media who focussed on the anti-sex side of it, because that suited that English, sniggering approach to sex.

Here we are. This is what used to be the national viewers and listeners association

yes, spot on caligula. here are the aims of the association:

"Publishes newsletters, reports on the portrayal of violence, bad language and sexual conduct, and briefings on film censorship, content regulation and the public interest."

Violence is listed first, and was what MW first complained about, IIRC

i stand corrected! But my point stil stands that sex and nudity is fiercely censored in this country, whereas violence is extreme and 'normal' on TV. worrying.