Radioactve Iodine linked to Japan found in Glasgow

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Sky news reporting now!

We have to remember that all news/media is controlled.

They will tell us what 'The Powers That Be' want us to know.

No doubt there are a lot of frustrated journalists out there who are constantly knocked back by their editors (who are in turn knocked back by the men in dark suits at the top!).

Heheh, I think Leo Hickman should come on here and account for himself.

Sakura, I just found this on Greenpeace International's website:

"People around the world continue to hold candlelit vigils and other rallies in solidarity with the people of Japan. On Tuesday, Japan's top government spokesman Yukio Edano said solar power, bioenergy and other clean sources will be key to the to Japan's energy future - something many people around the world who would like to happen in their own countries."

Thank you grafen,
let's hope they follow through

Fukushima has 6 reactors on site, 3 of which have damaged cores, 1 definitely has a leak, they can't get near to the others to check properly if the others are leaking, explosion and fire in a spent fuel pond and the site is next to the ocean. The General Electric design for the reactors was low on safety features and not designed to withstand the earthquake and tsunami that hit.
I hope I'm wrong, but I think this is going to end up being worse than Chernobyl.
ATM there is little to worry about in the UK.

Fingers crossed all we should be worrying about is whether Prince William will wear a wedding ring or not.

The particles detected were clearly the type emitted from the reactors in Japan, yet were so tiny as to present hazards far less than the background radiation you receive from walking past a brick wall.

This little detail did not stop the story being front-page news in the Express.

The radiation leaks from the Japanese reactors are tiny when compared to the radioactive waste that is dumped in the Irish sea from Windscale/Sellafield, as a result the Irish sea is one of the most radiocative in the world. 8 million litres of radioactive waste are pumped into the Irish sea every day from these British reactors at Sellafield so I think we need to worry more about the deliberate discharges from our own reactors than the accidental leakages from reactors in Japan.
www1.american.edu/TED/SELLA.HTM

schools-wikipedia.org/wp/i/Irish_Sea.htm

I had to explain to ds (who was worried 'cos it was raining and we live in Glasgow) that he had been "exposed" to more radiation when we had visited the Science Centre and he had seen how geiger counters react when exposed to a piece of (ordinary) granite.

"Irish fishermen often catch mutated fish that cannot be sold." Jeez.

Here's the first of Conculainey's links if interested.

Sorry for the bad links but they make intresting reading. Perhaps people do not remember the Windscale nuclear incident back in 1957 when radioactive material was released into the atmosphere and even today is pumped into the sea at a rate of 8 million litres per day, the goverment were very quick to change the name of the place to Sellafield to hide the incident.

The thing that worries me about nuclear power - well, one of them but the chief one - is that you have to keep nuclear waste safe for hundreds of thousands of years. We've only had nuclear power for what, 50 years, and we don't have a terribly good record on keeping either the stations themselves or the waste safe. I am not convinced our society is capable of generating nuclear power safely.

And the idea that it's the answer to global warming is so much PR spin. The carbon costs of building new nuclear power stations are massive.

Always wonder why no-one mentions hydroelectricity in the debates on what should replace fossil fuels. Maybe I'm just not up on the issues, but it seems like a good idea for at least part of the mix.

Edam, hydro electricity and tidal power I believe are the way to go, heres my local tidal generator ( 1.2 megawatts) with a zero carbon footprint and zero damage to the enviroment. Hope the link works this time.

www.ecogeek.org/content/view/1653/84/

Well, I'm finding all this a real eye-opener. I had no idea.

Grafen, it was a big coverup at the time (1957) to the point that they changed the name of the place, hard to believe that they are still pumping that stuff into the sea though, have they learned nothing?

That's really what I'm shocked about. Accidents I knew about; constant pumping of radioactive stuff into the Irish Sea - no, I had no idea. Very glad now that dd won't touch fish.

They will continue to do what they can to maximize profits for a small amount of men.

They aren't going to give that sort of power without a fight.

The health of children is insignificant compared to the profits involved in these ventures.

TEPCO electric is threatening people with electricity cuts every few days or so, attempting to prove that nuclear energy is necessary and we'd be fucked without it

Meanwhile the vending machines are still on and theme parks still running..

Conculainey radioactive discharge from Sellafield is bad and of concern, but IMO is tiny compared to the radiation that has been and will continue to be released at Fukushima.

Lab, the difference is that Sellafield discharges radiaoactive waste DELIBERATELY into the sea and the food chain at a rate of 8 million litres per day and that the windscale/sellafield disaster of 1957 has still not been fully resolved with the burn out reactor simply being incased in concrete which is simply not going to stop leaks, the incident in Japan on the other hand was an ACCIDENT.

Aren't there measurable adverse effects in the Isle of Man? They must be right in the thick of it all.

8 million litres is meaningless without knowing the level of radiation in the water....
As you say the Windscale accident has not been resloved yet.
Fukashima was an accident waiting to happen.

It's hard to know what is true and what isn't given the level of "don't panic people" versus the "we must tell them the truth" element. I figure tho, that if they planned for a 9 magnitude earthquake and a Tsunami that would kill 10's of thousands of people, they might have done something more? You know, so 20+k people didn't loose their lives? Who wants the nuclear plant to go tits up? Nature is red in tooth and claw and ANY power source can be dangerous.... On the very morbid side, the tsumani itself would have generated an AWFUL amount of power... Bang Goes The Theory had the figures for that one.

I don't look at it and just see the situation with the plant. The whole situation is devastating and will take many decades to sort out. And sure I expect that suicide rates etc could go up, cos I am just guessing that seeing your whole town washed away and half of your family dead is pretty depressing.

A friend of mine was just telling me that there have been nuclear accidents in France, which they have just kept quiet. Apparently farmers have been paid not to sell their animals, as in Wales and Cumbria.