Interesting how we've only just discovered Arab despotism

[granted]

In the interests of balance, re the 'rabbis' thread, I thought this shed an interestig light on the fact that whilst stories about Israeli abuses are published almost non-stop, we in the west, have apparently only just discovered, along with the recent protests, that actually the govts in Egypt, Jordan, etc weren't very nice either - to their own people.

Food for thought:

www.huffingtonpost.com/alan-dershowitz/how-the-hard-left-by-focu_b_817506.html

daisyj:
I have yet to hear a non-Jewish person complain of Lebanon and Jordan's treatment of the Palestinian refugees in exile. Simply because that treatment pales in comparison with the treatment of Palestinians in the Gaza strip or the West Bank. And also because most non-Jews acknowledge the Palestinians' right to return to their homeland.

Do you know what "hasbara" means? What is "hateful" about noting that a number of people on this thread are citing hasbara?

Kurkum, if I asked you if you wwre muslim, I'd probably get reported, or this thread closed down?

Still, it's good to see your biases out in the open - it's all down to a lovely big 'Israeli-Jewish Zionist' conspiracy.

Surprise us with some more of your world view, why don't you - so what are your views on the holocaust, then? Or was that part of the 'Israeli-Jewish Zionist' conspiracy, too?

By the way, I don't know what 'hasbara' means, but I'm sure you can explain why whatever it is means it's fine for you to label everyone who dares to disagree with your blinkered, over-simplified view, as tools of the ''Israeli-Jewish Zionist' conspiracy.

I personally think that the situation is a lot more complicated than you appear to comprehend - frankly, if it was that easy to resolve, it would have been resolved a long time ago.

Unlike you, I think both the Israelis and Palestinians are humans who largely share a desire for peace. And I hope that one day that can be achieved.

Sadly, there are warmongers like you around to whom the people on the 'other' side are less than human, who ultimately desire conflict not peace and who spend their time on a mums' forum posting obscure articles about rabbis. I think that's pretty low, actually.

granted:
If you want to know my religion, ask away. I have nothing to hide.

What "Jewish conspiracy" are you on about? And what has the holocaust got to do with this?

"Unlike you, I think both the Israelis and Palestinians are humans who largely share a desire for peace"
-- Could you kindly stop making crass assumptions about my beliefs?

If the 'are you Jewish?' was aimed at me, then no, I'm not Jewish. However, I don't understand why Islam claims that the Ummah is a world wide brotherhood, and yet those nations around Israel and the Palestinians aren't offering citizenship to those who they say need help. Why not offer that help?

It seems to me that the situation of the Palestinians is convenient for the nations around Israel, as they can refuse to deal with it and blame Israel. It also seems to me that it would be more productive for the Palestinians to have that help from the Arab nations as they could then move on and break out of the cycle they seem to be in.

The Palestinians are not offered citizenship because they have a right to return to their homeland.

Certain sections of society have enough problems believing that Palestinians exist in the first place, without reducing their numbers further.

If their homeland is not accessible though, isn't it better to move on rather than spending your life waiting for something to happen that is patently not going to?

There's a difference between 'not accessible', e.g it's been permanently flooded, and stolen and subsequently occupied. Also, demographics
and changing geopolitics mean that things may well change in the future.

The question is though, how long are they going wait for that future? However you want it to be phrased, that land is inaccessible for the foreseeable future as it has been for decades, so again, isn't it better to move on?

In a word, no. The Palestinians have been the victims of a grave injustice and that should never be forgotten.