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Alison Lapper Pregnant

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monkeytrousers · 15/09/2005 11:49

I think it's great! link

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Kelly1978 · 15/09/2005 12:23

pmsl

Nightynight · 15/09/2005 12:24

not so sure about that kelly - she is still a mum without her child after all. and she is still an artist.

at 4ft stretchmarks.

Kelly1978 · 15/09/2005 12:29

For me the inspiration was in the way she actively fought for the her rights and others rights to be a parent despite disabilities. She didn't do that until after she had given birth, so the statute doesnt reflect that.
I don't knwo what exactly it does represent - alternative beauty in motherhood I suppose, but I feel that isn't AL's greatest achievement.

Enid · 15/09/2005 12:32

I actually worry slightly that it is a tongue in cheek snipe at renaissance sculpture (missing arms and legs etc) and actually the artist thinks it is a terribly clever joke.

Like the idea of her being pregnant though and I am sure it will give the Daily Mail lot a minor heart attack which is always good for a laugh.

puddle · 15/09/2005 12:35

I do like the idea that the plinth will be used for different pieces of art though. My DS loved the idea of the next one - Hotel for the Birds - when we saw the shortlisted stuff in the papers - I may have to take him to see it.

cod · 15/09/2005 12:35

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Kelly1978 · 15/09/2005 12:36

and what would you do, cod?

Marina · 15/09/2005 12:36

That is such an interesting perspective Enid, do hope you are wrong about Quinn's motivations.
I'm not sure about the statue, but think Alison Lapper is strong, admirable woman and have a lot of time for her and her son.
I did also like Wallinger's Ecce Homo - wasn't that either on this plinth or suggested at some point? one for you Blu perhaps
Or maybe they could airlift that charming tribute to Di and Dodi up to Trafalgar Square instead?

cod · 15/09/2005 12:36

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cod · 15/09/2005 12:37

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Kelly1978 · 15/09/2005 12:37

rofl

would it be a naked j cloth?

snafsicle · 15/09/2005 12:37

and dianddodi, Marina

ninah · 15/09/2005 12:37

think you are right Enid
he contacted her because of her specific disability and she said oh, I would've done it but I'm pregnant and he said even better ....

snafsicle · 15/09/2005 12:38

at dianddodi

cod · 15/09/2005 12:38

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Marina · 15/09/2005 12:43

Oh cod of course not. Alison Lapper is a sensible person

Marina · 15/09/2005 12:44

And Parys, when mentioned in interviews, is described as a lovely, articulate but very normal-sounding six year old.

They also live at least sixty miles away from St John's the Unhinged or whatever

cod · 15/09/2005 12:47

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puddle · 15/09/2005 12:47

They are on child of our time (AL and son). He's a beautiful boy. The last one was very sad - he was feeling the effects of her not being able to get a permanent carer to support her in looking after himm - they had gone through several and he was obviously upset by it all. I thought it must have been very painful for her to watch.

triceratops · 15/09/2005 12:56

As public art goes it is better than most. I haven't seen it in real life though.

I think the human body is amazing and something to celebrate in all its diversity although I would rather see an attractive pregnant lady naked than, say, Bob Geldorf.

MissChief · 15/09/2005 12:58

love quinn's stuff and really admire alison lapper - makes a change from stuffy old statues of long-forgotten male war (mongering) heros, IMO!

monkeytrousers · 15/09/2005 15:01

Alison has used the image of classical Greek art (the model of classicism in renaissance times) before herself as when she posed herself as the Venus de Milo. Her disability is part of her identity and if art is about invoking thought on the human condition, amongst other things, then the body she was born into is essential to that process. Classic Greek nudes were all about archetypes and Alison is definitely an archetype for our age.

I think it works on so many levels though not just a pastiche of classical sculpture. It challenges a tyrannical beauty industry. And I bet it gets the goat of that whole swathe of society who think breast feeding in public is disgusting, or that any presentation of the female form not specifically eroticised for their privileged viewing is somehow pornographic in their eyes.

It's also going to be the most widely viewed picture of disability in a country where the majority of it's disabled citizens are still hidden from the mainstream in every sector. People here have to look at the disability straight on, not avert their eyes or look away in shame, or embarrassment or fright. But most of all the disability has not stopped Alison doing the one amazing thing that we have all done, something that until very recently disabled people were still having operations performed on them to stop. She has created a new life within her, disabled or not. The disability is at once central and meaningless. (Cliché police!) The idea and statement is of femininity triumphing, not just personally but also on a much wider universal level. Women rule the world as they create life. All the rest is a clumsy desperate rush to try compete, to matter. The position of her head is strong, but not arrogant. She?s depicted as a goddess. Sorry of the purple prose but it is a very poetic idea even if I'm not doing it justice. What a daft rant! lol

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nailpolish · 15/09/2005 15:08

agree with misschief - i really dont like war memorials or statues and it makes a nice change to have something modern.

i dont think it makes any difference that she is disabled, sorry, to me disabled people are just like the rest of us, human beings in the end, and this is a sculpture of a pregnant woman. end of.

i think its beautiful. I think all pg woman are beautiful they make me broody

monkeytrousers · 15/09/2005 15:23

You may think that disabled people are just like the rest of us Nailpolish but they aren't. If they were they would be able to enter society when and where they wanted and carry out full and fulfilling lives. But society isn't either made or built like that. More ramps are a start but until it is in everyone?s consciousness there will always be people parking on pavements so wheelchairs can't get past. Just a daft example but it's not a problem for an abled-bodied person, they just step around it. If there is no inclined curb someone in a wheelchair is stuck. Mat Fraser is there saying this I think.

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