Cleaning with bleach

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I see people talking about bleaching their bathroom/kitchen/entire house to clean it, but I don't understand how! I'm very wary of bleach as I've ruined too many clothes in years gone past, so now I only use it in the loo, and we have a bleach spray we use on white chopping boards. So, what do you do to use it on work surfaces or cleaning generally? Presumably dilute it a lot? What cloth do you use, and doesn't that just get full of bleach so would have to be equally treated with suspicion and thrown away or straight into the washing machine before it touches anything else!

PS, I do clean the bathroom, just not with bleach...

i heard a sanitary engineer demonstrating an auto flush, wash n dry toilet, excellent for disabled people.
he said never use bleach on it.
we presumed because it was high tech.
but no. he said not to use bleach on any toilet, because they all now have a special glaze finish, to repel grime/germs, and the use of bleach destroys this finish, which leads to that dull look.
i felt annoyed that my plumber had not told me this when fitting new loo a few years ago.
i have noticed the dullness. so now only use it sparingly, if needed.
the man said to use any proprietary/generic toilet cleaner, eg duck.

I just think of the water cycle. You pour bleach down your toilet or sink it goes in to the water cycle.
You drink water from the water cycle.
Not good.
I am shocked by the indiscriminate use of bleach by many posters.
The poor earth and the creatures that live on it ( including us humans ).

Good deal said about why we should not use bleach and like LadyEloise has stated it is so very bad for the environment and perhaps the
Environment ministers/officers should be taking a better lead/advise on
what is and what is not safer for us to use particularly at this point in
time with the virus upon us.
I give an example of myself seeking advice from a
minister a few months back when this virus first started.
I phoned an MP office who was more involved in 'environmental issues' (not my MP) and spoke to his office staff. Where I raised the question on
what direction/measures were in place for cleaning/disinfecting skips?
I was informed that this was not happening and had never been raised and unless this MP was my MP then I need to speak with my own MP.
Prior to this I had telephoned a few hire skips companies raising the same
question of how do they clean and more importantly how do they disinfect particularly now with the virus being so important.
I was told that customers always can hosepipe and disinfect the skips their selves.
My further question was that I expected the company that was providing the service to customers, to the environment to provide
fully cleaned and disinfected skips particularly now with the virus around, and was again informed that it was left to customers discretion.
What do you think of this then?

I don’t have any bleach in the house but my house is clean and none of us have died.....

I currently use Splosh cleaning products everywhere with an occasional use of lime scale remover.

The smell of bleach makes me queasy...

@mumsmaur - are you saying that you expect a skip to be disinfected?

A skip that sits OUTSIDE?

A skip that you toss your rubbish into?

Why on earth would it need to be disinfected? Don’t you wash your hands after throwing out your rubbish?

but do you really need to disinfect skips,
won't the virus die and or evaporate after a few days.
it's not as if it is inside the house, or that one needs to touch it.

@Chicchicchicchiclana

I use bleach for cleaning stained mugs (?about a teaspoonful per week) and painted onto the cut stalks of very stubborn weeds like brambles in the garden. A bottle lasts me at least a year. Never use it for cleaning ... the smell makes me gip.

Chic does this kill brambles off?! Fantastic!

I can’t imagine that Coronavirus wouldn’t last very long on a skip, let alone that anyone suffering from C-19 would be well enough to be outside filling skips (and if asymptomatic it’s very unlikely they’d infect an inanimate object like a metal skip that’s sitting outside in the first place) and in any case the virus doesn’t last long on surfaces etc so far as I can discover.

Hi, BuggerOffAndGoodDayToYou & Hi alexdgr8

it's about that which we ALL live in.
Yes one would wash hands after throwing rubbish, but it's what
comes with the skip, as every place it has been and overall held what
we just don't know what has been harboring.
Visited by the birds and yes rats and more that also carry disease too. We do not actually know for sure how long the virus can last for as it is still evolving into more forms so make such judgements that being outside its is somehow getting it purified is a guessing game
as the newer forms are something we are still to learn of.

We do not actually know for sure how long the virus can last for

But we do know that proper washing of our hands kills the virus. So, unless you are touching the skip with any other part of your body, a good wash of your hands will be fine. Seriously a skip has more problems than covid! Good personal hygiene is all that is needed when dealing with 99% of rubbish.

But it is not the just us, now is it.
I am saying that there are other visitors outside to the skips that take the germs around including cats, birds, rats, mice besides us visiting/using, which I think you are missing altogether is the fact that we pay our money for something that should arrive as a clean item that is safer than just leaving it as it takes its rounds.

I used to use bleach a lot but I do not anymore (other than down toilet or when one of the kids have a sickness bug). You can buy it in spray form or to save money you can dilute it in a spray bottle yourself. Cold water only for bleach. Hot water makes it ineffective. You can spray surfaces with it. But you really don't need to use bleach. Like I said I used to use it a lot but using a lot of it isn't great for you!

I just use it round the loo occasionally when it is visibly dirty, otherwise I use Ecover (BioKube system, no mains drainage). Then I use mostly Method products around the house. I also use bleach occasionally in the sink (old white butler sink) but if anyone has any recommendations for something else that can shift coffee/tomato sauce stains I'd love to know!

Mum's bleaches the outdoor bins. Fucking psycho 😂 it's been a lifetime fight but we're never gonna win.

Rub salt on stained cups works a treat. Needs some elbow grease but just as effective.

maybe the mad bin bleacher could be sent round to dirty skip hirer.
i mean the skip being dirty, not the hirer !
but seriously, is someone really worried about skips.
i don't get it. is this a joke ?
all those animals are running around any way, through yards gardens etc skip or no skip.
i guess you could spray the interior with bleach solution when it arrives.
by the way do not decant bleach into a spray bottle; it is a hazardous substance, and important that it is kept in original container with mandated labelling. you can buy spray bottles of diluted bleach easily.

Right so here we go, I am asking around for some information surrounding household cleaners that would be more reliable to combat the virus please?
I spoke today with our local chemist who has said that White vinegar
is not sufficient to kill the virus but said she recommended for worktops and toilets bleach!
I referred her to the newspapers who had published that bleach
has been indicated with cancer, and she said that as long as it

was diluted correctly it would be safe and with toilets to take care in applying.
Here found on internet is dilution levels:
www.gov.nu.ca/sites/default/files/bleach_dilution_chart-low_res.pdf

Regards, Maureen

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I hate using bleach but the new loo seat isn’t smooth so I’m using bleach on that because nothing else is removing stains.

Other than that I just use bleach a few times each month down the kitchen plug hole.