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Shouldn't we get funding for Home Education?!! Anyone up for a campaign?

62 replies

mummybiz · 13/07/2011 11:06

What's everyones opinion on the fact that we don't send our children to school or we take out children out of school so the LEA saves a minimum of £3000 per year and far more at secondary level but we get no help at all with funding ? If money was available would the fact that getting funding from an LEA or direct from government mean contact with the "authorities" or providing proof that the money had been spent on the childs education put you off applying if it was available?
There was talk of giving parents a voucher which they could take to any school which represented the LEA spending for that pupil and parents would be free to top up if they wanted private ed etc. This has been put to oneside due to cuts but we are still saving the government thousands and yet paying taxes etc which fund education.
I think we should campaign for some of the money which would have been spent on our children if they were in school to be given either direct to parents or to a central elective home education body formed by home ed parents to distribute to families - I'll start a campaign if anyone is interested?

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exoticfruits · 13/07/2011 22:20

Funding would have to come with checks-taxpayers would want to know how the money was spent.

LastSummer · 14/07/2011 04:33

Exactly. Entering into any kind of financial contract to educate our children at home would invite the closing of the legislative loophole that allows home educators in the U.K. to school their children in an almost entirely unregulated and often unstructured way.

seeker · 14/07/2011 05:06

mummybiz - it sounds as if what you want to do is set up a free school. There is funding for that already.

julienoshoes · 14/07/2011 12:41

It has been pointed out to me that there is an article about just this subject on the UKHE website, an independant source of information about HE.
It is most suitabley called
\ He Who Pays the Piper Calls the Tune

exoticfruits · 14/07/2011 15:17

I can'tbelieve they would want it. If I was paying, as tax payer, I would want every home educating parent registered and I would want at least a yearly visit by the LEA. I don't believe you can expect money without accountability.State education is provided-those who want different should pay for it-as in private education. I would have thought most HE would run to the hills with this idea!

FionaJNicholson · 14/07/2011 21:30

A couple of people have mentioned imminent changes to the state benefit system. There are 36 peers down to speak already at the 2nd Reading of the Welfare Reform Bill next Tuesday www.lordswhips.org.uk/display/templatedisplay3.asp?sectionid=5
edyourself.org/articles/jobseekers.php#welfreformbill2ndreadinglords
www.disabilityalliance.org/dbcbrief3.htm

MammaSez · 14/07/2011 23:02

I am obviously coming across the fundamentalist side of Home Education I was warned about - removes tongue form cheek and continues

I think perhaps purist is a better description than fundamentalist. People can be just as fundamental and dogmatic on any side of the debate. Keeps tongue in cheek.... in case she needs it later.

I was brought up to believe that everyone has the right to their opinion but that others should be allowed to have a different opinion

As was I.

I was also brought up to take the greater good into account, rather than just taking care of my own back yard.

You are absolutely free to set up whatever system works for you, just don't meddle in my freedom on your way to doing it.

don't be so scared that if a group or an individual wearing the label of Home educator does something different the whole Home Education community will be "threatened".

Again fear (or being scared) has nothing to do with it. You asked if people wanted to campaign for something, I am saying, you don't have the right to do so on my behalf. That is not fear, that is fact.

Again, difference of approach or opinion isn't threatening to me on any level. Where my eyebrows begin to be raised is when opinion moves to action, and that action then puts restraints on my freedom.

Even without direct government funding the government is contributing towards your childs education in some way whether through claiming tax credits- income support- using the local library- the swimming pool - the museums etc etc - should home educators who object to government funding so strongly not be allowed to use these services and be allowed to withhold a proportion of their taxes !?

Seems like a messy way of doing things. Tax payer = access to services regardless of education philosophy.

As for educational philosophy affecting what is taxed, that is an interesting debate.

FionaJNicholson · 15/07/2011 14:16

edyourself.org/articles/jobseekers.php#welfreformbill2ndreadinglords

Welfare Reform Bill 2nd Reading delayed till September. Announcement earlier today from Disability Alliance

FionaJNicholson · 15/07/2011 14:17

edyourself.org/articles/jobseekers.php#welfreformbill2ndreadinglords

Sorry better link!

Fiona

JazminKennedy · 15/07/2011 22:38

Wow, such a heated debate!Shock I'm sure we've all been there, when we started homeschooling, i know i was desp to get some kinda funding, for tutors, for clubs that my kids go to but as time passed i knew it was impossible without stings attached!

mummybiz I have high hopes of my children homeschooling theirs, they best! And if not, i hope to be alive to take over!GrinGrinGrin

Jamillalliamilli · 15/07/2011 23:55

Hi, I went to tribunal for the right to direct our AWPU, to help provide an agreed home education to an SEN child, and self represented, so definitely not afraid of the LEA, inspection, criticism, negotiation, or assisting them to turn a negative situation into a positive one.
(I choose not to go after the SEN budget as it affects other SEN children?s provision)

I?m sure the majority of h/edders would flee the level of daily paperwork, requirements of meta speak, meetings, and stress and vulnerability that?s part and parcel of our life. Then there?s the speed and complexity of the process for changing any part of what we?re doing that?s covered by AWPU finance. (It?s just as well not all of it?s covered.)
You need to be imaginative, very pro active, patient, ego free and on the ball to keep it all working in the child?s best interests.

So, I?d say careful what you wish for, as the drawbacks are fine with me as I?ve no way to put right what?s been done to my son without the AWPU, (but it should never have happened in the first place) and accept that regardless of why, if you take the King?s shilling, then the music you play for others must at all times please the King; not always easy.

Live through hell long enough, then all forms of purgatory are happy places, but I wouldn?t recommend loosing freedom to anyone with choices in life.

PS, the next generation of our family having are happy, unfunded, unfettered, autonomous h/edders. :)

exoticfruits · 16/07/2011 07:06

I would stay happy, unfunded,unfettered and autonomous-I bet schools wish they were the same! If the government pay the money they most definitely play the tune.Apart from the visits do you really want the amount of paperwork that schools drown under?!

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