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A non-Europe 2-3 weeks once-in-a-lifetime-ish trip with teens1

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PosiePerkinPootleFlump · 12/07/2024 20:24

Looking for some recommendations....

We went to Namibia and Cape Town last October for 16 days, when the kids (teens) all had a 2-week October half-term. Hired a 4x4 with 2 roof tents in Namibia for a mix of wildlife and remote campsites. Then Cape Town for a few days at the end. It was awesome. No phones (no reception!), lots of time outdoors, animals, scenery and environment totally different to what the kids are used to etc.

It worked brilliantly - yes it was expensive but not nearly the prices some people talk about for non-Europe on here (flights London-Windhoek-Cape Town-London for the 5 of us were £3500, whole trip less around £7000 all included). I arranged it all myself but have been to both Namibia and CT before so had an idea where to go and how to organise - I can see organised self-drive tours come in at way more than this.

This was a long-planned special trip. We normally house swap or Airbnb or camp in Europe or the UK. If you were contemplating one-more-big-trip before the kids want to do their own thing, but hadn't got 10k+++ to spend, had 2-3 weeks and were probably constrained to school summer holidays.....what would you do and where would you go? I'd love to go to Costa Rica but don't think it is doable in budget. Youngest teen would love to go to Japan but same worry on £££. Would love to do India too but don't really know where to start for a relatively short time.

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BeBopBeBop · 15/07/2024 18:46

If you're thinking Japan, can I throw Korea into the mix? City (Seoul), countryside (Seoraksan, Andong, Pocheon), coast (Busan, Sokcho) and island (Jeju). Trains are a good option. You get the whole KPop and Korean film/TV thing, incredible food and just lovely people. Shouldn't be as expensive as Japan all be it flights may be and yes humid, but plenty of ways to cool down.

Holidayqueen1 · 15/07/2024 18:53

We went to Japan in October with our teen and it was much less expensive than we thought it would be. We ate from supermarkets some nights and stayed in cheaper places. Loved it so much we’re planning to go next summer to Hokkaido and poss Okinawa.
we’ve also been to Sri Lanka which was amazing- culture, wildlife and beaches, kids could surf, safari and the train from Colombo to Ella is amazing! You may even be there for the Kandy festival which is fab. Super reasonable and lovely people.
weve been to Vietnam, but didn’t enjoy it as much the last time, very busy!
loved Cambodia and as others have said, easy to combine with other SE Asia countries. Indonesia amazing as well, easy to go overland and so many different cultures and things to explore.
Peru was amazing, internal flights not horrific and so much to do and see.

really fancy Namibia so would also love your itinerary and South Korea also on our list.

we loved Canada and had an amazing time but it’s not cheap. I would avoid the US for the same reason.

we’re off to Mexico driving around the Yucatan in a couple of weeks. Accom
quite reasonable and loads to do!

off to Borneo in Oct, again not too expensive and lots for teens!!

happy planning!

ToBeOrNotToBee · 15/07/2024 18:55

Try the Philippines.
Over 7000 islands. Gorgeous country. Lovely people. Under developed tourism wise so it still feels very authentic.

parietal · 15/07/2024 19:44

Sunshineonararainydayyy · 15/07/2024 09:27

@PosiePerkinPootleFlump @LesFlamandes would you mind sharing more on your Namibia trips please. We’d have to go in English summer due to exams, is that an issue in seeing wildlife?

Also who did you fly with and rough budget would be awesome. Thanks

Also considering Japan but may wait until we can go another time of year as apparently it’s very humid in our summer months (though I could be wrong on that)

Brazil is a great country - good beaches & Rio is an exciting city with iconic landmarks and Iguacu falls nearby.

For Namibia, august is a great time to visit because it is dry season so all the animals are at the water holes and easy to see. We did a tour fixed by a company but I'd have liked to spend a bit longer in each place to see more.

It is a lot of driving on dead straight roads across desert to get from one place to the next - brings podcasts. But the deserts are amazing.

Cismyfatarse · 15/07/2024 21:27

@Dontmesswithmyhead We did it all ourselves. In the Amazon our hostel came with a guide, boat and all meals etc. Everwhere else we have done it ourselves.

Internal flights are cheap and reliable. Hotels are very cheap. Our last stop has been 4 nights for 4 adults and cost £400.

A non-Europe 2-3 weeks once-in-a-lifetime-ish trip with teens1
EffinMagicFairy · 15/07/2024 21:30

@Inspirationfailure @tobyj - we booked AI through TUI - stayed on Riviera Maya on Yucatan Peninsula. They have a few AI along here, not sure I can recommend ours as we were done with the AI buffet by the end of the stay, even our DC, however others have raved about the food, it’s not something we normally book but wanted to treat DC & it’s a way of keeping in budget, especially if you want to do the trips/excursions which are £££, Tui are expensive, but there other local guides which can be used, we signed up to FB groups and they will pop up.

Another reason to book a bigger hotel, they clean the beaches - seaweed (Sargassum) is a real issue in our summer months (June, July & August) We were lucky, beaches we visited were free of it and it only came in on our hotel beach the last couple of days - it’s been better this year and can be there one day, gone the next, it’s unsightly and not the sort of seaweed you would wade through - in fact I would research anywhere in the Caribbean now as it destined to be an issue in other destinations - Mexico have been dealing with it for a few years and have nets in place and bigger hotels have the £££ to clean the beaches - they have to otherwise they won’t have tourism industry. Countries draining fertilisers and warm seas contribute to Sargassum.

Another reason I’m glad we booked a bigger hotel as these should be certified storm shelters built to withstand hurricanes - we went knowing it was rainy season - expecting a few short sharp showers and then sunshine - we didn’t expect the recent Hurricane Beryl to go over us as a Cat 2 hurricane. Hurricanes don’t normally start until later in the year, this was earliest in history or since 2004. Having said that the locals were not worried. For this reason I’m glad I didn’t book the smaller boutique hotels in Tulum.

Other than that, the trips are amazing, DS does not do beach holidays - we had to pick something to keep him busy, Mexico ticked the boxes here.

Dontmesswithmyhead · 15/07/2024 22:00

Sunshineonararainydayyy · 15/07/2024 09:27

@PosiePerkinPootleFlump @LesFlamandes would you mind sharing more on your Namibia trips please. We’d have to go in English summer due to exams, is that an issue in seeing wildlife?

Also who did you fly with and rough budget would be awesome. Thanks

Also considering Japan but may wait until we can go another time of year as apparently it’s very humid in our summer months (though I could be wrong on that)

Brazil is a great country - good beaches & Rio is an exciting city with iconic landmarks and Iguacu falls nearby.

We visited the San people in the north east of Namibia and it was a fantastic experience. It was part of an educational out reach project. They gave the kids a fantastic experience and they made bows and arrows to go ‘hunting’, dug out water roots, crawled in burrows and sang and danced.

Kayaking with the seals on the west coast was also a highlight. Worth adding to the usual suspects of Death Valley and the dunes, plus Etosha

Madcats · 15/07/2024 22:22

I was going to suggest Namibia! DH and I have been 4 or 5 times on road trips (and a fancy trip with Skeleton Coast Safaris). The coast will be chilly in August; pleasant inland. Etosha is a great introduction to wildlife if you stay in the government camps.

DD(going into yr 13) is probably a similar age. At Easter we had friends spend a few weeks in Japan, using trains and Airbnb's (but I think a relative is a regular visitor).

Another friend is currently heading around Sweden in a campervan.

Wedoourish · 15/07/2024 22:30

I am in Vancouver and it is absolutely stunning and very hot . So much to see ,Vancouver island,whistler,grouse mountain,road trip out to Banff …absolutely glorious.

LesFlamandes · 15/07/2024 23:01

Wedoourish · 15/07/2024 22:30

I am in Vancouver and it is absolutely stunning and very hot . So much to see ,Vancouver island,whistler,grouse mountain,road trip out to Banff …absolutely glorious.

That sounds amazing! We are due to fly out in a week. Four nights in Vancouver and eight on Vancouver island. I can’t wait!

Have you seen much wildlife? What’s the food like? Any other tips?

CedarFence · 15/07/2024 23:05

My teens loved Vietnam

Esimasia · 16/07/2024 07:09

Just back from a trip to Singapore and Vietnam.

Took the two DC (one at uni one about to go) and DH and whole thing cost less than two weeks in Greece in August, thanks to new Singapore Airlines flights from Gatwick. Much cheaper than the LHR flights. Also much cheaper to arrange yourself - Trailfinders wanted around £1k more and hotels weren’t in good locations so I arranged myself.

Both countries are very well set up for tourism and it’s super easy to arrange yourself.

If your teens are older can you go early July? (ie end of GCSE/A levels) If so, I am sure you can grab bargain flights if you book ahead.

Lots of Aussie and Korean tourists in Vietnam, not so many Brits (which we loved!). Northern Vietnam eg Sapa and Hanoi, Halong Bay a bit wet, Central Vietnam their summer so we didn’t have any rain (hot & humid) but I’d probs avoid the southern bit eg Ho Chi Minh & Phu Quoc islands as very wet that time of year.

Plenty to do in Central Vietnam - Hue, Hoi An, An Bang beach, Cham islands. Food is incredible and people very friendly.

Dontmesswithmyhead · 16/07/2024 07:40

LesFlamandes · 15/07/2024 23:01

That sounds amazing! We are due to fly out in a week. Four nights in Vancouver and eight on Vancouver island. I can’t wait!

Have you seen much wildlife? What’s the food like? Any other tips?

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Icantfindanewname · 16/07/2024 08:05

These suggestions all sound incredible. Due to life throwing some dirty punches recently, we've just booked Cairo followed by Nile cruise for this October.

I love the idea of some of these others, but don't feel confident to book independently. Sorry to jump on @PosiePerkinPootleFlump's post but where do you all recommend using? We used Travel Counsellors for Egypt, are they good for Namibia/Vietnam etc?

Madcats · 16/07/2024 16:32

@Icantfindanewname My only helpful tip for Egypt is that there is a really good view of the Sphinx and Pyramids from the roof terrace of Pizza Hut! I've no idea about the quality of pizzas (just somebody I follow on X dragged their tour guide up there this week)!

For "not straightforward" Africa (i.e. we need to combine multiple locations and flights/car hire etc), I use a firm called Expert Africa. They don't mind booking government restcamps alongside £££ places. Ardvaark Safaris are probably great too (we met one of the owners on their honeymoon and they have triplets in their mid-teens). We favour Bradt guidebooks. They mention reputable local companies specialising more in off-road adventures/camping without en-suites if that is the sort of adventre you are planning. FWIW the Namibian roads certainly were well graded (suitable for a saloon car). If they are in a bad state the lodge/camp owner will usually get you to park at a nearby 'farm' who will radio through for you to get picked up.

Happy planning (we're in Norfolk this year!)

PosiePerkinPootleFlump · 18/07/2024 18:14

Thank you everyone for some amazing suggestions for me to check out, and sorry for the delay in coming back with more detail on Namibia for those who asked.

It was really simple to arrange ourselves. We had 11 nights in Namibia then flew to Cape Town and had 4 days there. If I hadn't been going to CT to see family I'd have stayed 2 weeks in Namibia I think. Because we were constrained on time we booked all campsites in advance as we didn't really have long enough to alter plans.

Flew Lufthansa via Germany - so left London on Friday evening, change in Frankfurt, then arrived Windhoek the next morning.

We hired a 4x4 with two roof tents from www.safaricarrentalnamibia.com - we picked that company as they had an option for 5 people (2 adults 3 kids) with one smaller roof tent and one larger. None of the kids are massive (if I had 3 large teen boys I suspect it would have been too much of a squash) but they managed in the larger tent fine. They picked us up at the airport and drove us to their place and spent a couple of hours showing how everything works on the car/tent/cooking equipment etc. Drove us back to the airport at the end of the trip

We then drove straight up to Etosha, and were at a water hole looking at giraffes/elephants/rhinos/lions later that evening.

In an ideal world I'd have done Etosha last (as it was so exciting to see the occasional giraffe or zebra or kudu at the roadside on our way up there, but by the time they had seen dozens/hundreds the excitement wasn't quite so significant and so I'd rather have kept it for last - but it was a deliberate choice taken because the rainy season was coming and we wanted to ensure we got there before it started as the animals don't come to water holes so much if there is rain everywhere).

We stayed 2 nights at Okakuejo and one at Olifansrus in the park. Very different camps and experiences. We saw more animals in number at Okakuejo but more close up and at a smaller camp at Olifansrus. With more time I'd have done an extra night at Etosha.

From Olifansrus we had quite a long drive to Spitzkoppe where we stayed 2 nights. Did a hike with one of the local guides on the day between. Very hot, amazing scenery, amazing campsite where you can barely see the next nearest tent. The local village used to mainly farm but droughts in recent years made that unsustainable so it is good that they can now support the village via the community campsite and guided hikes etc. We stayed here Spitzkoppe Campsites

I think from there we drove through Swakopmund (might have stopped to do some desert activities with more time but it was cold and cloudy on the coast compared to inland) and through the desert to Sesriem just outside Namib Naukluft national park stayed here Sossus Oasis, Namibia - Service Station & Camping at the entrance to Sossusvlei & Sesriem Canyon (sossus-oasis.com) Next morning up super-early to visit the dunes - did a couple of hikes up a dune and through Dead Valley etc.

Then a long afternoon drive to Mount D'Urban Campsite (mountdurban.com.na) which is possibly my favourite campsite in the whole world for 2 nights of chilling, hiking, eating delicious food (the owners will deliver home baked bread, homemade jam, bbq meat from their farm etc) and chilling out.

From there to Quiver Tree Forest - we stayed at Garas Park rest camp for a night - again went running/hiking and explored.

Then to Jansen Kalahari Guest Farm for the final night before heading back to Windhoek. Did a game drive around the farm at sunset with the owner.

What I'd have done with more time: a bit more time - longer at Etosha, an extra day at Sossusvlei, maybe a stop in Swakopmund for some desert activities
An extra week or more: up to the Kaprivi strip for very different scenery etc
Even more time: I'd go to Botswana as well (have been before in my early 20s on an overland truck trip through southern Africa and was awesome).

Useful websites for itinerary ideas: Namibia road trip - the ultimate 2023 itinerary +Map (stingynomads.com) and various others

Useful stuff: Dirt roads = punctures. Know how to change a tire! No phone reception in the vast majority of the country....print off directions to places in advance as Google Maps is not going to help you. Also plan where you'll buy food - we cooked (there was a fire pit to cook on in all campsites and they generally sold wood too). There aren't many eating out options at campsites other than the big rest camps at Etosha, and you don't want to be driving around in the dark and then have to get back and pitch tents....don't forget with roof tents camp has to be packed to move.

Hope that is useful :)

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Thinkpositivethoughts1 · 20/07/2024 13:15

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Another2Cats · 20/07/2024 14:10

Another alternative, if you're happy driving yourself might be a Fly & Drive holiday in China. You rent a Chinese car and off you go. There are various tour operators that arrange this, here are a couple:

https://www.adventuretourchina.com/tourcat/fly-drive/

http://www.drive-china.com/selfdriveitineraries.html

Flights to China in August are about £700 to somewhere like Chengdu or £450 in October.

"Would love to do India too but don't really know where to start for a relatively short time."

Perhaps West Bengal and then Nepal? The capital of West Bengal is Kolkata (formerly Calcutta) and there are lots of wildlife reserves in the area, like the Sundarban Tiger Reserve. From there you can go up to Darjeeling in the foothills of the Himalayas and from there journey to Kathmandu. From there you can even go to Tibet and visit the city of Lhasa (if you have the time and money).

For travelling, India has lots (and lots) of trains. There is a very good resource here, including a suggested two week itinerary around northern India, about how to book tickets etc:

https://www.seat61.com/India.htm

Flights to Kolkata are around £650 in August and £630 in October

Fly & Drive – Adventure & Tour China

https://www.adventuretourchina.com/tourcat/fly-drive

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