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Who is/was the most important person ever?

167 replies

waltzingparrot · 13/07/2023 14:18

Just listened to an interview and a 'name' was suggested as being the most important person ever in our planet's history.

If you had to name one person as being the most important, who would it be?

Presumably without what they invented/did/said, our life today would be unrecognisable.

I immediately have a list of a dozen or so really important people throughout history, but I don't know how to rank them and come up with a no 1.

OP posts:
Lamelie · 13/07/2023 23:05

@waltzingparrot who was named in the programme?

commonground · 13/07/2023 23:07

Your mum.

ErrolTheDragon · 13/07/2023 23:07

Or maybe Saul of tarsus, without whom Jesus would probably have remained one of the many apocalyptic preachers around at the time who are now consigned to obscurity. Foisted the divisive idea of monotheism on far too much of the world; it's doubtful Islam would have arisen without Christianity as a precursor.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 13/07/2023 23:11

The fantasy author who invented Jesus Christ.

Pudmyboy · 13/07/2023 23:22

ErrolTheDragon · 13/07/2023 23:07

Or maybe Saul of tarsus, without whom Jesus would probably have remained one of the many apocalyptic preachers around at the time who are now consigned to obscurity. Foisted the divisive idea of monotheism on far too much of the world; it's doubtful Islam would have arisen without Christianity as a precursor.

My understanding is that Islam came about from Abraham throwing his concubine Hagar and his (first born) son Ishmael out once god had granted his wife Sarah (previous barren) a pregnancy at age 60, Ishmael went on to found Islam, and as Abraham is old testament, Islam predates Christianity.....or have I got that mixed up?

Pudmyboy · 13/07/2023 23:23

Buddha
King Arthur

lilyfire · 13/07/2023 23:29

ErrolTheDragon · 13/07/2023 23:07

Or maybe Saul of tarsus, without whom Jesus would probably have remained one of the many apocalyptic preachers around at the time who are now consigned to obscurity. Foisted the divisive idea of monotheism on far too much of the world; it's doubtful Islam would have arisen without Christianity as a precursor.

Yes I agree with maybe St Paul

specialsauce · 13/07/2023 23:30

It depends how you define 'importance'. If defining it as the most significant, or the most profoundly influence on the evolution of humans:

The first human who made a tool.

The human who first worked out how to create fire.

Or the one who first used a wheel type tool.

The first who germinated and cultivated a seed.

One of those perhaps. We'll probably never know their names.

NCGrandParent · 13/07/2023 23:30

Oppenheimer or Henrietta Lacks

Whereisthesherry · 13/07/2023 23:41

I think i agree with Jesus and Muhammed.

I was going to say Thomas Midgley Jr.
Single handedly responsible for irreversibly poisoning the entire planet, twice!

He invented both leaded petrol and CFCs.
Leaded petrol damaged the brain development of millions of children globally and is still effecting us today. CFCs tore the hole in the ozone layer and infected every water source on the planet, irreversibly.

Thankfully his third and final invention was fatal only to himself. He had contracted polio, and invented a system of pulleys to help him get out of bed. It malfunctioned and he became entangled in it. He died of asphyxiation.

JeandeServiette · 13/07/2023 23:42

LMNT · 13/07/2023 21:04

Jesus was a fictional character.

Mitochondrial Eve.

Oh dearie me.

You thought Jesus was fictional? Grin

JeandeServiette · 13/07/2023 23:43

There is zero evidence. Writings are not evidence.

That's history fucked then.

Blondey2023 · 13/07/2023 23:43

The man who invited antibiotics Dr Alexander Fleming. Thank goodness for him. He should be at number 1.

orangeleavesinautumn · 13/07/2023 23:43

Jesus Christ

second - Ghengis khan

Dotcheck · 13/07/2023 23:44

LapinR0se · 13/07/2023 20:53

Jesus Christ. Our world would look very different without his existence

Huh

ErrolTheDragon · 13/07/2023 23:57

specialsauce · 13/07/2023 23:30

It depends how you define 'importance'. If defining it as the most significant, or the most profoundly influence on the evolution of humans:

The first human who made a tool.

The human who first worked out how to create fire.

Or the one who first used a wheel type tool.

The first who germinated and cultivated a seed.

One of those perhaps. We'll probably never know their names.

I sometimes think maybe it was whichever human first invented the bag, so they had something other than stomach or hands to bring food back to the group in. Just imagine gathering nutritious shellfish without a container.Grin

JeandeServiette · 14/07/2023 00:37

I can't think of a suggestion.

I've got completely distracted by working who they said, OP.

Was it Charlemagne? Genghis Khan?

CallieQ · 14/07/2023 00:40

No evidence that Jesus existed

orangeleavesinautumn · 14/07/2023 00:40

ErrolTheDragon · 13/07/2023 23:57

I sometimes think maybe it was whichever human first invented the bag, so they had something other than stomach or hands to bring food back to the group in. Just imagine gathering nutritious shellfish without a container.Grin

I think cups and flasks were more important than bags

and projectile weapons brought the first possibilities of stable government, not to mention stable food supplies

CallieQ · 14/07/2023 00:41

Elizabeth 1

PermanentTemporary · 14/07/2023 00:43

CallieQ · 14/07/2023 00:40

No evidence that Jesus existed

You don't have to accept the evidence, but it exists- eg the reference in Tacitus is convincing to me. I'm an atheist BTW.

JeandeServiette · 14/07/2023 00:47

CallieQ · 14/07/2023 00:40

No evidence that Jesus existed

Well yes there is. Why are so many people determined to think he didn't? You don't have to believe he was the Son of God (which I don't either) just because you acknowledge he was real.

ErrolTheDragon · 14/07/2023 00:53

There's evidence someone we transliterate as Jesus existed but not much evidence which passes historicity tests of him being what was later claimed.

Now then... has anyone mentioned Confucius yet, massively influential on one of the biggest and longest lived civilizations in human history.

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