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Too early for a Medicine 2027 thread?

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SuperSue77 · 31/08/2025 19:25

Just wondered if there was any interest in a medicine 2027 thread for those of us with YP going into year 12 who plan to apply for medicine? I've seen one or two lurking previously and will try to tag if I can find their user names. Just conscious that I am always posting on the 2026 thread, yet DD is a year behind them and so my comments aren't so relevant.

Please come and join me here if you are interested.

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Mafaldaweasley · 27/09/2025 22:17

Thanks @mumsneedwine, I thought I might have read that somewhere but wasn't sure - it definitely makes sense!

I think some of the virtual work experience is free, so might be good.

Also, I had thought just doing lots of practice for UCAT would be fine - are tutors generally necessary for this?

Soundofshuna · 27/09/2025 22:26

We were on the dentist conference this morning I thought it was dreadful( sorry!) Just a huge advertising pitch for their services and to pay £4000 for what is freely available. It was recommended by school so we signed up. I think everything is available elsewhere for less or free.
I’m a dr with lots of med school
interviewing experience so obviously have a head start but know less about dentistry so felt I ought to find out a bit more but this was such a sales pitch I was quite cross.
the major thing I took away was that UCAT is like membership and just requires lots of question practice.
I then had a go at a mock UCAT myself to see how hard it was( 30+ years since I went to med school and not a thing then). I found the maths tricky as very out of practice but was pretty pleased with my overall score!

Mafaldaweasley · 27/09/2025 22:48

Thanks, @Soundofshuna that is kind of what I felt about it, though the basic information was useful - some aspects felt a bit like a cult!

Soundofshuna · 27/09/2025 22:53

Mafaldaweasley · 27/09/2025 22:48

Thanks, @Soundofshuna that is kind of what I felt about it, though the basic information was useful - some aspects felt a bit like a cult!

The things that would have actually been useful ( like the sort of info mums need wine keeps or exactly how each dental school shortlist) was not covered at all or what GCSEs are needed for which. I think work experience, volunteering or a paid public facing job plus excellent predictions and UCAT with strategic application should get interviews then some mock interviews for practice will hopefully be sufficient!

Mafaldaweasley · 27/09/2025 23:07

Yes, that's true they did not talk about how to apply strategically. I think they could have fitted the relevant info into a much shorter session (maybe if they'd spent less time on the advertising aspect). I thought the UCAT info was useful but only because I had not really looked at that yet, so could have found it elsewhere - I think it was probably helpful for my dd.
I did notice they were insistent you could not talk about dental work experience in a medical application and vice versa, when I think there are potentially a lot of similarities you could draw out and reflect on in terms of themes such as ethics or delivering good clinical care. I'm hoping this was just as they wanted to sell their particular product!

SuperSue77 · 28/09/2025 09:21

@Soundofshuna and @Mafaldaweasley my DD and I are about to listen to the Medicine one this morning! DD won't be happy if it is all advertising their services, but her school also recommended it, so good to show her teachers who serious she is. Wondering if it is stuff I already know.

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mumsneedwine · 28/09/2025 10:04

@Mafaldaweasley no tutors needed. Suggest Medify or Medicat for 6 weeks, do the practice questions on UCAT site (all free). Look at YouTube videos if need further guidance - lots of great ones now.

Mafaldaweasley · 28/09/2025 11:47

@Soundofshuna we are on the medicine one but both multitasking as it is very similar to yesterday! Dd wanted to join again to get the certificate of participation - not sure how useful this is!

@mumsneedwine yes that's what I had gleaned so far! Definitely sticking to that plan.

Mafaldaweasley · 28/09/2025 11:48

They are really bigging up need to do research but I am also not sure this is really necessary! I don't think a huge number of school pupils will be doing this... and paradoxically they seem down on EPQs.

Soundofshuna · 28/09/2025 11:58

Honestly I have interviewed at 2 different medical schools and no one has done independent research. In terms of specialty applications which they are also pushing it for in the future a paid for piece of research you did in 6th form would carry no points. I can say this with certainty from my other educational roles. I feel the are preying on people’s understandable anxieties about the process. I am going to feed back to school that it really isn’t worth doing!

SuperSue77 · 28/09/2025 12:15

Mafaldaweasley · 28/09/2025 11:48

They are really bigging up need to do research but I am also not sure this is really necessary! I don't think a huge number of school pupils will be doing this... and paradoxically they seem down on EPQs.

Have you been listening to the Q&A during the break? I’m really cross with an answer they gave to someone called Hannah. She explained that she had only done 7 GCSEs (due to illness) and would this disadvantage her? They told her that she would struggle and that she should do another GCSE privately during year 12. But surely this is incorrect? BSMS for example - just want a 6 in maths and English lang - so only having 7 GCSEs isn’t an issue, provided you have those 6s in those subjects.

I’ve seen lots of med schools that only ask for 5 or 7 GCSE at a particular grade, so surely not having 8 GCSEs is only going to restrict you from some med schools?

I may have misheard the question and she may have specified her chances with a med school that scores 8 GCSEs but I was surprised they were trying to persuade her to do another GCSE when she probably doesn’t need to.

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Mafaldaweasley · 28/09/2025 12:17

Hi, yes @SuperSue77 I was not sure either about whether the answer they gave that student was correct - especially with extenuating circumstances. I though a lot ask for 7 x 7 minimum, but on the other hand some seem to score 8...

Also yesterday on dentistry one they told someone they could not apply with combined science at GCSE, which is definitely wrong!

SuperSue77 · 28/09/2025 13:39

Mafaldaweasley · 28/09/2025 12:17

Hi, yes @SuperSue77 I was not sure either about whether the answer they gave that student was correct - especially with extenuating circumstances. I though a lot ask for 7 x 7 minimum, but on the other hand some seem to score 8...

Also yesterday on dentistry one they told someone they could not apply with combined science at GCSE, which is definitely wrong!

Was it the same presenters on the dentistry one, or two different people? I imagine at least one of them yesterday must have been a dentist rather than a doctor?

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Mafaldaweasley · 28/09/2025 16:02

Yes @SuperSue77 the woman was the same but they had another woman on who was a dentist. It was the same person doing the UCAT talk though - don't think I learned a huge amount from today!

Prestissimo · 28/09/2025 16:42

Just popping my head in to say that it’s worth looking for your local primary care training hub for help with work experience/application mentoring and so on. This is my local one, they’re just starting their Futures programme for this year. Not sure how it works around the country but it’s a great scheme - if anyone happens to be in Lincolnshire this is obviously more applicable!

https://www.lincolnshiretraininghub.nhs.uk/training-and-events/futures-programme/

Good luck to you all navigating the process - it’s a lot more complicated than when I applied for medschool 30 years ago!

Futures Programme - Lincolnshire Training Hub

https://www.lincolnshiretraininghub.nhs.uk/training-and-events/futures-programme

SuperSue77 · 28/09/2025 17:33

Mafaldaweasley · 28/09/2025 16:02

Yes @SuperSue77 the woman was the same but they had another woman on who was a dentist. It was the same person doing the UCAT talk though - don't think I learned a huge amount from today!

I don't think I learnt much either, but I think it was helpful for my DD to help her start thinking about she needs to be doing. A friend of hers from school was on the session too, so that was fun, though I don't think she saw her - though with 700 participants I'm not surprised!

Another thing I saw which I felt was completely wrong - in the chat at the end someone asked if they couls still apply with a 5 in English language - no mention of being contextual - but they replied 'yes'. Now maybe it was another participant who replied 'yes' rather than the Mentorverse people, but the majority of med schools want a 6 in English language, very few will accept a 5, from my research - so I thought that was potentially giving the wrong info, when I felt there were sufficient med schools that accept 7 GCSEs to make sitting another one privtely in year 12 unnecessary, esp as you say there were extenuating circumstances.

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mumsneedwine · 28/09/2025 20:18

My DD has done no research and is happily an ST1. It's not needed in 6th form and for many specialties not at all.

Mafaldaweasley · 28/09/2025 21:29

@SuperSue77 I saw that in the chat too, though I think it was just others on the call responding, not the hosts. I think they should have spent a bit of time explicitly saying what is needed in terms of GCSEs, with caveat it varies, as judging from the questions a lot of people were unsure.

My daughter was really stressed afterwards, and took some time to convince she does not need to evidence medical research and leadership as a sixth former, but can show general leadership capabilities through her sports and coaching activities. Thankfully seem to have made some headway with organising some work experience (hopefully) so she has calmed down a bit.

Thanks for the tip @Prestissimo , can't see anything on our local primary care hub, and our nearest acute Trust has paused their work experience programme. She has started completing the form for a neighbouring Trust (not sure if she will be eligible but it didn't seem to specify), just needs to get a teacher reference.

Getting somewhere with medical work experience though nothing so far for dentistry so will have to keep trying!

Randomactofkindness · 28/09/2025 21:43

My DD had no medical research and got 4/4 offers!!!

Edited because I can’t spell!

ZokaluseK73 · 30/09/2025 22:37

Hello..

I was browsing the net for 2026 med school open days for 2027 & came across this post so joined up & read this thread.

I’m now worried that we should have been viewing the med schools this summer & autumn?

My daughter decided in year 9 that she wanted to be a surgeon. I booked her onto investin junior Dr day to see if she felt the same after a day hearing all about being a Dr. She came out buzzing.

She has no idea what else she’d want to do if she doesn’t get into Med school but is also interested in Psychology, though her passion to be a Surgeon is not going away.

She did 10 GCSE’s & got 4 9’s, 3 8’s & 3 7’s… 9’s are Chemistry, Biology, Food & Nutrition & PE. 8’s are Maths, Physics & History and the 7’s were Eng Lit, Eng Lang & Spanish. She is gutted she was 1 mark off a 9 for Maths, 2 marks off an 8 for her languages & 2 marks off a 9 for History.

She has just started her Alevels & EPQ. She’s doing Biology, Chemistry & Psychology. Her EPQ will be on Psychology/Mental Health of Gymnasts.

She is a Gymnast herself doing 16 hours a week & many a weekend busy at competitions.

She has done 3 days work experience at a GP practice this summer.

She missed out on hospital volunteering this Autumn but they’ve asked her to contact them again in January.

She does one afternoon a week of voluntary work at a special needs senior school.

She will be joining 2 upper sixth prospective med students to run a Dissection club for the lower years.

She is currently looking for a Saturday job.

After Christmas she’s hoping to have set up a full week of work experience at a hospital & have hospital volunteering too.

Nice to see this thread & have other mums to chat to & share worries with! 😩

SuperSue77 · 30/09/2025 22:53

Welcome @ZokaluseK73 ! I don't think you need to worry about not having been to do uni visits yet - when DD and I went to UEA she was in the minority being in yr12. There are still some to come though, so if you think your daughter has some she is interested in you could check to see if they have any dates coming up. My daughter and I are off to Exeter this Saturday.

All your daughter's stats and experiences sound great so far though, so she is on the right path! Dissection club sounds fun - what are they dissecting?

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ZokaluseK73 · 30/09/2025 23:56

Thank you @SuperSue77

That’s a relief!! She only has UCL & Liverpool on her list currently & is planning into looking at more over a few weekends when she has time.

I have no idea what they will be dissecting, all I know is that she was invited to run it. It’s not started yet. They settle into term then this type of thing usually starts after October half term.

I hope you & your daughter enjoy your day at Exeter.

Peachy80 · 03/10/2025 11:04

@SuperSue77, you mentioned that you were heading to Exeter tomorrow for an open day. We are going to Manchester. Let's exhange feedback again.

SuperSue77 · 05/10/2025 14:55

Peachy80 · 03/10/2025 11:04

@SuperSue77, you mentioned that you were heading to Exeter tomorrow for an open day. We are going to Manchester. Let's exhange feedback again.

Hi @Peachy80 would love to! So, Exeter was billed as the most beautiful campus in the UK - I can see where it got that reputation, it was beautiful, even in the hail and wind! We stopped at one accommodation hall and the view of the countryside and hills and fields was beautiful and some of the buildings are very attractive.

We started at St Luke's campus which is where the medics are mostly taught. Popped into the Waitrose over the road for a takeaway coffee and croissant first, and impressed by the friendliness of the staff. I didn't have my own reusable cup so couldn't get a free coffee so asked if I coud buy one, but the woman let me have it for free as a 'treat' so that set the morning up nicely!

We went to the medicine talk and the Associate Clinical Director of Medicine spoke well about the course. Then a student spoke about her time there and then the admissions woman said a few words. What stood out to me was that whilst they talked quite a but about student wellbeing and support, I didn't get the sense that they are big on WP. Whilst they do have a lower score required for contextual students, there wasn't a contextual student giving the talk (I think there has been for all the other med schools we went to) and it was just a vibe they gave off. Myy DD told me she had heard that Exeter was full of students from Surrey (we are from Surrey!) and I did get that vibe while I was there too. I got a bit of a private school feel, but that could be unfair.

What was interesting though is that the Associate Clinical Director said that all students will train as HCAs and do a stint as one (can't remember if it was 3 or 4 weeks) and that it would allow students to join the NHS bank for shifts if they wanted to earn some money. So that could appeal to students who would otherwise find med school unaffordable.

They have changed their course slightly and students will go to the Penryn campus in Cornwall for years 3 and 4, or years 4 and 5 or year 5 only. They also talked about a spiral curriculum so you revisit topics over and over during the 5 years so that they really stick n your mind - but I thought this was quite common in lots of integrated courses, though I am no expert!

We went and looked at the Rowancroft accommodation which is the big accommodation near St Lukes, abut 5 min walk away. We looked at an ensuite room and it was really noice, as was the kitchen area, which was large considering only 6 shared it, though possibly that was because it was a flat with an accessible room so the kitchen needed to be big enough to accommodate a wheelchair. They prioritise St Luke's students for Rowancroft so you'd likely be housed with other medics and healthcare students. DD was quite excited by the idea of being on campus with friends as two of hers like Exeter and want to study Sports Science and Neuroscience, bith of which are taught at St Lukes. Rowancroft is self-ctered which DD was less thrilled about, as she'd love to be in a catered hall, but it doesn;t seem feasible for medicine as the catered halls over at Stratham campus are shorter contract lengths than the medics first year timetable so you'd need to find alternative accommodation for some of the time and move out over Christmas and Easter which doesn't sound fun.

We got a shuttle over to the Stratham campus which is probably a half hour walk away (we didn't attempt it as short on time) but through the town. It was odd that when we walked into the Forum and asked student helpers where we could get some hot food, they only suggested the 'kitchen' but we later found out that the Ram Bar upstairs need food too. The 'kitchen' was hugely disorganised, drinks had to be bought somewhere separate to food and the wait was ages, like they're not used to having that many people - I suppose if you are a student there you know the set-up, but it was very frustrating for us not in the know.

We did a campus tour and it was just walking round and having the main buildings points out to us, it felt less relevant given most of the med stuff is over at St Luke's. At the end of the tour we walked past The Ram Bar, and it didn't even get a mention! There didn't seem to be any mention of social events etc, just club-based things. I was at Manchester and we had 80's nights in the Academy which was every Tuesday night. There was always things going on and maybe times have changed but I just wondered where they go for a drink and a dance and meet others. I dragged DD into the Ram Bar after and ordered a pint, for old times sake (she had a frappicino from Starbucks which cost more than my pint!). But given DD isn't that interested in partying and drinking (yet - or maybe never will be like I was) this may not be an issue.

DD loved it though and it is her favourite after Nottingham (we're not sure she will apply to Nottingham due to GCSE results) she is still unfortunately influenced by the RG label and what her friends think, but I am ignoring all that for now and once she has her UCAT we will see where that takes us. We are starting to think about Keele though, and wondering whether my DH will tolerate another weekend of us going away to go and see that one in November. We have ARU booked for November 22 but DD isn't too keen on it, so still undecided as to whether we'll go and see it.

How was Manchester? It's not really been on our radar as I just feel it won't suit DD. I studied Maths and Philosophy there 30 years ago and was a bit overwhlemed by how big it was, coming from a small school and a small town. So it just feel like the sort of place DD would thrive, hence I have no real idea about the med course or entry requirements.

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mumsneedwine · 05/10/2025 15:53

@SuperSue77about 70% of Exeter is state school. Lots go from my v non posh comp. It does have a lot of southerners, but then so do most Unis down south. Ditto up north. Students like to be able to get home.

The Truro years seem awesome, learn medicine and surfing at the same time.