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St Andrews into 2021 (new thread)

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Newgirls · 11/12/2020 15:16

Ok can’t think of a catchier title! If anyone can send the other thread over here pls do!

Prospective and existing parents etc all welcome here. Transport, accom, cloaks, choirs, beaches and more to be discussed. Next year will be better surely!

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Stockpot · 28/01/2022 14:21

Thank you for taking the time to share your insights @Alittlewornout, it sounds wonderful.

Monkey2001 · 28/01/2022 15:40

@Valleyofthedollymix accommodation is NOT first come, first served. There is a deadline for application (maybe in June?) and as long as you apply by then you have an equal chance with others of getting your first choice of accommodation type. They don't allocate accom until your offer is unconditional, which can mean a scramble for the right bedding at the end of August!

All accommodation has different strengths, my DS loves the historic feeling of University Hall - the large lounges and staircases and grandfather clocks. The shared bathrooms have been great as they have a cleaner (I think every day?) and you are only sharing with a small group of people you know. He had a sink in his room in the first year which he really liked. He was very relieved not be in Agnes Blackadder (ABH) as he did not like it on the open day or Andrew Melville (AMH) which is very ugly but super cheap. However, lots of people love those halls and applied to stay there for second year. One thing at Scottish universities which is odd for English students is that a lot of first years in the old halls have shared rooms. DS REALLY did not want that, partly because he thought his GF would be visiting, although Covid put paid to that! @Newgirls DD had a room mate in the first year, so she can comment on that. I think it would be more of an issue in a normal year than it was for our 2020 starters.

DS has had 2 years in Uni Hall and has found a house for next year - looks like he might have been lucky as it is a house for 6 on or very near South St and at £150/week each a bit of a bargain!

Having been caught out 2 years in a row on over-recruitment I don't think they will over-recruit this year, so very unlikely that anyone will be in Dundee and if they were, there is a bit of movement in the first few weeks of term.

@Stockpot there is a lot of general flexibility, so I expect it is possible to add in a year abroad, but as a medic my son would not really know.

What DS has loved about St Andrews is that it feels like Cambridge by the Sea, it is beautiful and is full of very clever people. The student population is truly diverse, 25% international. When we visit, there are constantly people saying hello to him on the main streets.

His social life is based around friends he has met in hall. He had a choral scholarship last year, but doesn't really socialise with the choir as he finds them a bit posh! They quite like people watching and spotting famous people - there are often a few to spot.

Newgirls · 28/01/2022 16:36

[quote Valleyofthedollymix]**@newgirls* and @Monkey2001*- can I shamelessly pick your brains instead of having the gumption to google the information?

DS has an achievable offer for St A and I think it's going to end up being his firm and his insurance. Only caveat is that he hasn't actually visited yet, but he seems chill about the fact that it's v small - we live in a busy bit of London so his argument is that he can get his city fix at home and he'd rather have a completely different experience than a London-lite.

He's going to visit ASAP, check out the town and take a look at the different accommodation blocks. Is it first come first served? Ie if he firms the offer and applies for accommodation on the 15/3 is he more likely to get what he wants?

Secondly, he'd like catered accommodation. He is being kind of precious about sharing bathrooms but I don't think en-suite should be decider (it's not like he has his own bathroom at home). Which would be the most fun, easiest to meet people, relatively convenient (though he'll probably have a bike)?

Also is there any danger of him being in Dundee or that only very late applicants?

Sorry to use you as unpaid advisers. Any other tips welcome. It's exciting.[/quote]
Hi there

I get the impression all the halls are well liked. Uni hall is where mine is and she loves it. It’s basically a castle. It’s such an easy place to get around so wherever they get will be ok.

Def go and visit. It’s a magical place. The beach, the harbour, toasty shack, student union, great cafes, quirky cinema etc, all very nice.

Socially - mine goes to festivals and gigs in the holidays. They have club and disco nights at the union most nights I believe too so not as sleepy as some might think.

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Newgirls · 28/01/2022 16:39

Dundee was used when they had to take all offer holders. I think they will try and avoid that at all costs this year - it really was a last minute post a level results panic solution rather than permanent

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Newgirls · 28/01/2022 16:44

Oh yes the room share! My dd was freaked out about that. They only did one term in the end as the uni shut down to all but medics (let’s try and forget all that now…). But the room mate was great and it was prob good for my daughter. The room itself was massive - must have been a sitting room originally with a fireplace, stained glass windows and sea views so I can see why it wasn’t for one person! Having said that she prefers having her own room there now.

Locals - well the uni has been there longer than any local. And I guess most of the jobs rely on students. So fairly harmonious on the whole.

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Newgirls · 28/01/2022 16:52

Social life - seems hectic and varied! Lots of clubs and groups and because they are all there they all join in, say compared to a large city where that gets diluted.

They also have academic families who are older students who take the new ones under their wing and take them to dinner, to quizzes etc which is nice

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Valleyofthedollymix · 29/01/2022 13:41

@Monkey2001, @Alittlewornout and @Newgirls many many thanks for all this information, it's invaluable and would have been so hard to winkle out from googling. Really appreciate it.

It sounds lovely, it really does.

Newgirls · 29/01/2022 18:00

Very welcome. Its hard to get an offer at St. Andrews so well done to your student 👍

It also ranks at top uni in Times etc now in large part due to student happiness so that should prob help to reassure you

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Alittlewornout · 29/01/2022 18:06

@Valleyofthedollymix you are very welcome. Well done to your dc on their offer, as Newgirls says they are not easy to get.
Just ask away if there is anything we haven't covered or your dc wants to know. I am sure we will do our best to answer.

Valleyofthedollymix · 29/01/2022 18:14

We are still rather mystified as to why he got such an early and good offer but, no matter, he'll take it!

Alittlewornout · 29/01/2022 18:40

@Valleyofthedollymix don't be mystified his passion for his subject will have been evident in his ps. That is what they look for.
If you get a chance to visit check if they are still running the talk and walking tours they are very good. They can be booked online.
We did one with my dd and she was also lucky to have a meeting with a lecturer as part of this. It was prior to her being made an offer although that swiftly followed and the offer was swiftly accrpted!!Grin

Monkey2001 · 29/01/2022 19:05

Had a call from DS, he has a ticket for his first St Andrews ball - the DJ will get its first outing at university! @Newgirls I assume your DD will be going to the Uni Hall ball? It is nice timing as it is 2 days after his 21st birthday, so he will have a posh meal with us on the Saturday and a ball on the Sunday.

He told me the committee are still trying to work out how to spend another £20k from the Entertainment budget by the end of the semester - there may be a lot of free pizza on the way!

Newgirls · 29/01/2022 19:15

Oh will find out monkey! She’s deep in mermaids stuff at the moment. Cast party tonight. New play starts tomorrow. Trying not to be too outing and prob failing 😂

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Newgirls · 29/01/2022 19:16

Sounds like he will have a fantastic birthday 🥂

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Newgirls · 29/01/2022 19:29

She enjoyed a recent celiedh and bonfire on beach - all very Scottish

Stormy up there today but I think they quite like it 😂

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Monkey2001 · 29/01/2022 20:17

Glad to hear she is finally getting some drama in, hope it goes well. Has she talked about realising what they were missing out on last year?

Newgirls · 29/01/2022 20:36

Yes - I think it’s a lot to process but she’s grateful it’s 4 years. She’s going to move her year abroad to after to make the most of her St. Andrews time.

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Alittlewornout · 29/01/2022 20:58

@Monkey2001 so pleased your son is off to his first ball Hope he has an amazing time!
Break a leg to your dd @Newgirls
Hope they get a covid free run.
Dd flatmates and some close friends down with covid she is testing negative both on lfts and had a pcr, she has been doing food and paracetamol drop offs.
Dd has uni dance comps every weekend in February so hoping she stays covid free.

Monkey2001 · 29/01/2022 21:15

Uh oh @Alittlewornout, hope she dodges it, we have found that for people we know it doesn't take out the whole household, just picks a few. Has her house share worked out well? Is she staying in the same one next year?

Alittlewornout · 29/01/2022 21:38

@Monkey2001 her houseshare has worked out so well. The girls all get on and yes they are keeping their flat on. They have really enjoyed having their own place and having friends round for dinner and movies. They are expert Aldi shoppers and are queens of the reduced yellow sticker aisle in supermarkets. I have to say I am impressed with her budgeting and she eats really well.
Hoping she avoids covid, it is so odd re the transmission, as you say not everyone in a household always gets it.

Newgirls · 30/01/2022 08:40

Little glad to hear about the dance competitions - my dd saw the dance show a while back and loved it especially the supportive atmosphere

The flat share sounds a great success too

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Alittlewornout · 30/01/2022 12:24

@Newgirls glad your dd enjoyed the dance show. They do seem a very friendly bunch according to dd. Good luck to your dd on opening night, hope it all goes well.

idsisatwat · 30/01/2022 14:01

@Valleyofthedollymix congratulations to your DS. My DD is there (also a 2nd year) and loves it. She was in en-suite self catered for her first year, and is in private halls this year (en suite self catered). She’s right on the beach this year.
She’s just managed to sort out accommodation for September- will be in in a house share with 3 friends and is really looking forward to it.
She loves it. It’s been so much better this year as they’ve had lots of social activities. The 4 year course also gives them a bit of flexibility; she’s now doing a joint degree.
I’d definitely recommend going up for a visit if you can.

Valleyofthedollymix · 01/02/2022 10:25

@idsisatwat thanks, the more he thinks about it the more pleased he is with his offer. Planning a visit towards the end of the month, but I'm not sure how bad it would have to be to put him off. That horizontal rain perhaps.
(PS IDS is a twat, isn't he).

Newgirls · 01/02/2022 10:42

Book ahead for dinner if you go at a weekend - Forgans is nice.

What subject is he doing? Can we give any tips on your visit?

The uni museum by the aquarium is a good one as it shows the alumni and history of the uni with lots of pics of red cloaks etc which is a ‘feelgood’ moment for getting an offer

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