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Son failing first year at university

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tess1pink · 13/07/2014 19:46

Just seeking some advice. My son has messed up his first year at university. He admits too much partying not enough revision. He has failed most of his exams so is having to re-sit next week. I have had a constant battle with him one minute he has it under control and has a plan for revision and the next he literally falls to pieces crying even saying its all too much. He says he does want to stay on at university and desperately wants to continue to year 2. He tells me the first year has been really hard but he never sought any help from his tutor. I don't know why. He feels terribly, saying his life his over. I am so full of anxiety. The first thing I think about when I wake is this, I have lost nearly a stone in weight during the last 3 weeks, I cannot focus or concentrate at work, just doing what is necessary. Cannot wait for bedtime every night is my only respite. I am feeling my son's pain every inch of the way and it is unbearable. I have tried to be understanding and supportive but we keep having the same conversation each day about how he is going to do his best but he says his best will not be good enough. He has gone to stay with his father for the last few days, a change of scenery and I think to get away from the terrible atmosphere in this house. I don't know what to do if in fact I can do anything at all. Is it natural to feel this much pain for him? Also more importantly will the university end his studies or would they give him another chance? Should he/me be calling the university now to ask what his options are if any or should he wait until after his resits? I don't know which way to turn. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Sicaq · 15/07/2014 13:27

Exactly Need. Sometimes the best you can do for someone, longer-term, is let them make mistakes.

UptheChimney · 15/07/2014 17:41

Needs might sound harsh, but the advice is good. the OP is way too invested. I can't help wondering if the DS knows the weight his performance is putting on his mother, and is acting out by failing.

tess1pink · 19/07/2014 12:01

Hi JellicleCat Things have calmed down quite considerably now after my son returned from his dad's. He has taken two of his re-sits and is due to take the last on Monday 21. One went well the other badly. But I have taken your and other members advice he knows I will support him but refuse to show my anxiety. At the moment he is sure if he fails re-sits he will take a year out and take a different course after but like you he will have to work. Just wondered how things were with your daughter and her re-sits/decisions?

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isthisanacidtest · 19/07/2014 12:07

Is it him that wants uni or you that wants it for him? IYSWIM?

I'm not trying to be harsh, but you need to step back a bit, be supportive and let him find his own way. It does sound like you're doing that though - but it's hard.

The hardest thing you ever do as a parent is let them make their own mistakes. He will find his own way in the end.

(DS who failed, flunked, arsed about and is now at uni doing a degree in his 20's having grown up finally)

tess1pink · 20/07/2014 14:30

Thank you for your comments.He says he definitely wants to stay at uni. If he didn't want to I would support him whatever his decision. He has one more exam tomorrow but Friday's exam went terribly. He feels once he fails his re-sits (his thoughts) then he has ruined his life and its just hard seeing him like this. He has thought of having a year out to work and do volunteer working as a sports coach but worries he wont be able to get into another university as ucas points have gone up (he's about 40 points short on some courses but 20 points on others) so thinks he has no options. If he takes more qualifications in a year out the courses are very expensive, something we couldn't afford to do. I have said he should get his results first and then think of what to do next. I guess he needs to speak to someone who knows about these things who can advise him.

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JellicleCat · 20/07/2014 17:33

Hi Tess
DD does not have her resits until August, so is meant to be revising at the moment. As she is in her uni city about 3 hours away I have no idea how much she is actually doing.

I am trying to take the view that it's her life and she needs to make the decisions and live with the consequences. Hard though.

Can your ds talk to the careers service at his uni? Hopefully he will pass, but maybe if he has some alternatives worked out he will feel better.
And he most certainly has not ruined his life. There are lots of things he can do they might just be different things.
When does he get his results?

tess1pink · 20/07/2014 20:25

Hi JellicleCat. I agree its very hard isn't it? I do take your view I know its right to think that way but I can't stop the worrying. I think I am feeling his disappointment if that makes sense. Careers service would be a good idea as you are right he would feel better if there were some alternatives. I wasn't sure who to contact and he is not really wanting to speak about anything concerning the uni. Seems reluctant to want to talk to them as doesn't think they can help. But I will suggest this. I'm not sure when he will receive the results. Going away for the week just the kids and me on 28 July so hopefully we can just chill a bit away from the stress but I know we will all be thinking about this.

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JellicleCat · 20/07/2014 22:32

I know what you mean about them not wanting to talk about it. I think you just need to try to pick your moment and try to keep it low key and chatty.

I spoke to DD tonight and don't think she has done much revision at all in the last week. However she is now thinking she is not on the right course (which I have to say I think may be right) and is looking at alternatives. She is now going to see what help the careers service can be.

The course she likes the look of is an arts course and she is currently doing a science so would be a big change. She does appear to have the grades and subjects to swop. Fortunately we are in Scotland and she did 5 Highers - maths, English plus 2 sciences and a language which means she has entry qualifications for quite a range of degrees.

At the uni she is at the carers service has a page about swopping courses. It said that 14% of UK students change course - maybe it might help your ds know he is not the only one??

I hope you get the chance to chill out when you are away.

funnyperson · 23/07/2014 23:55

Hello OP I'm a bit late into this but the advice I can give you is this: Support yourself and keep your own mental and emotional health on the straight and narrow, perhaps by threads like these, as you being anxious doesn't help your son one bit.
He's the one in trouble so don't make it a family competition as to who feels most bad.
He is going to be feeling tired and stressed and needs space to reflect and make his own life decisions whatever the results of his exams.
You can keep sane and do the washing up and make the beds and put the food on the table etc and keep an ear open and a shoulder free.
My DS failed stuff in his first year cos he handed stuff in late cos I didnt stand over him with deadlines like I did in 6th form. He's passed out with a 2.1 and independent study skills. No one is born perfect even if it seems like it. Failure teaches resilience.

funnyperson · 24/07/2014 00:00

I'm probably not as generous as you though, because I remember thinking thank goodness its not me wot failed a module, thank goodness I will never have to do finals again. How wonderful to be middle aged. How wonderful that though I felt for him, it actually wasn't my problem.

tess1pink · 10/08/2014 21:30

Up date...just had the results of resits. Failed 2 modules out of five. Has emailed faculty to ask what next. Guess it's out for him. (His thoughts).. There was a bit of hope that he would get through. See what they say :(

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JellicleCat · 10/08/2014 21:37

Sorry to hear that Tess.

DD is in the midst of her resits and also waiting to hear if she can change course. If the answer is no she will take a year out and re-apply.

Has your ds thought anymore about a plan B? His uni careers service should still be able to offer support.

tess1pink · 10/08/2014 22:20

Hi there, Thank you for replying. He has spoken about, rather than resitting the first year (that's if it's even offered). He will take a year out, work (he has a part time job) and also do some volunteer coaching work at a local school and then apply to another university next year. He really is set against sitting the year again. I think due to the fact the course wasn't what he thought it would be. He was looking forward to the next year as more practical based. I'm a little worried about that plan as he only has 220 ucas points and most sports courses now want 240 points minimum so it will not be easy getting into a another university. He did say he will apply through clearing but then it's no guarantee he will get in to his chosen uni. He is a lot calmer than previously and I'm more chilled although still worrying. Before he quits though he will contact the uni careers service as you say and see what they say. Any advice will be appreciated. Hope all works out for your daughter. Let me know how she gets on and what she decides. We'll see what the faculty person says and his personal tutor.

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weatherall · 10/08/2014 23:01

I failed one of my first year exams then passed the resit.

Lots of others in the same boat.

It's really not the end of the world.

You are getting way too anxious about this.

This is part of the process of HIM learning to be an adult.

funnyperson · 11/08/2014 00:58

I'm sorry he failed the resits though it did sound from what you said that he found it hard to focus on revision because he was in a poor mental state.
How are you feeling OP? Are you in a better stronger place? Your son needs to know you love and support him whatever. Sounds silly but it is important at these sorts of times. You don't need to lower your expectations that he achieves but you do need to let him know your love isn't conditional on him achieving success always but you know that.
His plan B sounds sensible to me.

Jinsei · 11/08/2014 01:15

OP, please tell him to get some advice from his university's advice service - may be based in the SU or in student services. He needs to understand if there are any financial implications to starting again elsewhere.

Pregnantberry · 11/08/2014 01:21

Another one here who had to do resits in the first year, changed course and everything was much, much better from then on. I had to raise some extra money though because I needed to pay for two extra first year modules which I would have done on the new course had I done it from the start, but it was worth it.

tess1pink · 11/08/2014 11:19

Thanks for your replies..just had reply from faculty adviser. Board will make decision on 1st Sept however she feels my son will be offered a place on Life Science course for a year, to make up credits lost. After a year he would progress to year 2 of the sports coaching and PE course however the degree title will stay as Life Science. He has replied asking if the degree title will have any implications on his future career. Does anyone know about this or have any advice?

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funnyperson · 12/08/2014 10:31

Sounds fine, it depends what your son wants.

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